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You keep making this error in your logic. Tom Send a noteboard - 23/09/2015 07:44:00 PM

One of my points is that, in the USA as well as elsewhere in the Western world, far more people now have college degrees than a generation or two ago - in that sense education has indisputably improved.

You're assuming that a college degree is a generic item, like, say, a passport. The reason so many Americans have college degrees now is because there are so many shit colleges out there that are essentially teaching remedial and high-school level knowledge. There are for-profit scam colleges like the University of Phoenix. Every town of at least 25,000 people likely has a "community college", and plenty of those are moving to being 4-year institutions that provide degrees of extremely dubious quality. It means nothing to look at the degrees Americans hold. I can state clearly that my parents' generation had a more rigorous high school education than mine did, and from what little I can tell of the educational system today, even less is actually taught, except whatever happens to be on the endless standardized tests that Common Core has brought with it. Almost daily I see articles about people graduating from high school and even college without the most rudimentary skills.

I don't see any "indisputable" evidence of improvement. In fact, I see anecdotal evidence for decline.

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It doesn't necessarily follow that education is getting worse, though. - 22/09/2015 06:22:31 PM 780 Views
But it has. College is now teaching what high school should have. - 22/09/2015 09:00:20 PM 884 Views
I'll take your word for that, but... - 22/09/2015 11:02:28 PM 722 Views
Re: It doesn't necessarily follow that education is getting worse, though. - 23/09/2015 02:03:03 AM 682 Views
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You keep making this error in your logic. - 23/09/2015 07:44:00 PM 664 Views
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