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Re: Just answer one question ironclad Send a noteboard - 20/11/2015 10:34:35 PM

View original postHow well has Germany integrated the Turks?


View original postAnd after you've answered that, consider that it is ten to fifty times easier to integrate the Turks than it will be to integrate the Syrians you're letting in. Realize that your open borders are letting in anyone right now. This myth of "oh, only the middle class ones are getting to Europe and they've got better jobs and will integrate easier" is just that - a myth. To a certain extent, a middle class person from the Middle East who becomes a lower class garbage collector in Germany is a far better candidate for ISIS than a lower class person from the Middle East who works the same shit job in a richer economy. You are letting everyone in right now and processing them after the fact. It's so mind-bogglingly stupid that it should be obvious. You're letting anyone in. ANYONE. There will be terrorists, and criminals, and drug gangs, and people running prostitute/sex slave smuggling rings. And you're letting them in because you just aren't enforcing laws that you yourselves passed. Your kind hearts are totally useless when you've just put a bullet into your brains.

There are things you can't learn from reading your papers, Tom. Especially not in the ones that already support your political stance in the first place. My point being: You don't live here. You don't know any Turks from here, you especially don't know any Syrians or other refugees that came here. I meet and work with both somewhat regularly. We're fine. And we will remain fine unless the right wing nutjobs get back to power. Which won't happen, because they may be a loud and obnoxious bunch feeding off the fear of decent people who are just misguided and worried right now, but they're also just dumb hicks. All of them.

Of course there are parts of bigger cities that are not as well integrated as they could be. Of course, there could be better controls right now about who's coming. But, a bullet in our brains? Absolute rubbish. The Syrian garbage collector who has met a decent reception here and knows his folks are safe around him is not as likely to join ISIS as the guy who gets pushed back out at the border, that's for sure.

*MySmiley*

You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.
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