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No one says it's easy, but the alternatives are so much worse ironclad Send a noteboard - 18/11/2015 08:18:47 AM

View original postI doubt Germany needs a ton of fifth-rate engineers who can't speak German worth shit. They'll end up as part of a dead-end underclass. They've already brought enough crime in with them; if they stay they will settle in ghettos of Arabic speakers and live on the fringes. Say that kicking them out helps ISIS all you want, but leaving them will help ISIS even more.

See and that's where you're wrong. Leaving them in keeps them away from ISIS. Of course integrating them won't be an easy feat and it's important to prevent the creation of ghettos (which may be a huge part of the reason France is where it's at today). But the ones that are met with open arms, kindness, language courses and a fighting chance in the job world will definitely not turn to IS, even if they return home later after all. Those met with mistrust and turned away from here will definitely be our future enemies on the IS side or their victims. How does that help anyone? This war won't be won by bombs alone.
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Obama, a few days ago - ISIS is "contained" Anonymous2000 - 14/11/2015 08:22:40 PM 1865 Views
What does one thing have to do with the other? Legolas - 14/11/2015 09:30:59 PM 1243 Views
Oh, you poor naive silly man Cannoli - 15/11/2015 12:15:48 AM 1178 Views
I quite agree it was inevitably going to happen. Doesn't stop it from being tasteless and silly. *NM* Legolas - 15/11/2015 01:29:18 AM 674 Views
Exactly. ironclad - 16/11/2015 10:01:14 AM 1611 Views
Buash and Cheney created the mess in the Middle East?Now thats funny *NM* random thoughts - 16/11/2015 01:39:32 PM 720 Views
What exactly destabilized Iraq? ironclad - 16/11/2015 02:03:19 PM 1502 Views
Does that mean you support secular dictators? Tom - 17/11/2015 01:50:52 AM 1204 Views
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement, not Obama. Vodalus - 17/11/2015 05:53:13 PM 1269 Views
stop reading crazy left wing sources random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:24:49 PM 1259 Views
The withdrawal and its timeline were part of the 2008 SOFA signed by Bush. Vodalus - 17/11/2015 07:36:56 PM 1157 Views
Just becuase people tell you stupid things does not mean you have to believe them random thoughts - 19/11/2015 07:34:25 PM 1084 Views
Wow! I'm communicating with someone from an alternate reality. *NM* Vodalus - 19/11/2015 10:32:56 PM 752 Views
nope, just a republican moondog - 20/11/2015 12:41:15 AM 1093 Views
That kind of thinking doesn't help. Vodalus - 20/11/2015 04:21:21 AM 1156 Views
I suspect that happens to you a lot. *NM* random thoughts - 20/11/2015 07:15:42 PM 611 Views
When did you stop beating your children? moondog - 20/11/2015 12:27:59 AM 1011 Views
True. Though obama has his share of mistakes AgentApple - 17/11/2015 07:12:28 AM 1166 Views
Obama pullying troops out early random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:22:10 PM 1071 Views
How did ISIS start in Syria? Clearly it started in Iraq. Legolas - 17/11/2015 07:50:36 PM 1231 Views
If you want to take it back far enough it began in fighting Russia in Afghanistan random thoughts - 18/11/2015 01:25:06 PM 1130 Views
I'm not sure how this is even a debate. Legolas - 18/11/2015 08:00:47 PM 1168 Views
where did they first take and any significant territory? *NM* random thoughts - 19/11/2015 07:43:19 PM 629 Views
You're an idiot *NM* TheCrownless - 14/11/2015 09:32:17 PM 699 Views
Confirmed - one of the terrorists was a "Syrian Refugee" Anonymous2000 - 15/11/2015 01:35:11 AM 1032 Views
Now they're saying the passport might be fake AgentApple - 15/11/2015 06:36:45 AM 1166 Views
Not confirmed at all ironclad - 16/11/2015 10:00:19 AM 1561 Views
I can't see how you get from A to B random thoughts - 16/11/2015 01:42:04 PM 1117 Views
I don't understand you. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:48:02 AM 1117 Views
That is because I am not against intellectualism random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:35:17 PM 1180 Views
The fingerprints match the refugee so yes, it's confirmed. The mastermind posed as one, too. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:45:33 AM 1107 Views
78% of all Syrian "refugees" are men. Something is up. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 04:03:14 AM 767 Views
And sadly, Germany is too emasculated to respond adequately. Tom - 17/11/2015 03:52:45 PM 1120 Views
Glad to disappoint you by having a heart ironclad - 17/11/2015 03:56:48 PM 1568 Views
A heart, but not a brain Tom - 20/11/2015 06:00:06 PM 1101 Views
Yup *NM* ßelals Girl - 17/11/2015 05:53:08 PM 695 Views
Well, when those who want mid-1930s Germany back are disappointed... ironclad - 17/11/2015 10:35:45 PM 1456 Views
No. You've just gone from a horrific extreme to the pathetic opposite extreme. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2015 06:08:05 PM 618 Views
Deport the economic refugees to where, precisely? Legolas - 17/11/2015 08:14:51 PM 1191 Views
Back to their home countries Tom - 17/11/2015 10:13:51 PM 1056 Views
Right. In that case, yes, they're working on that. Legolas - 17/11/2015 10:55:55 PM 1252 Views
10% acceptance for Pakistan still sounds high Tom - 18/11/2015 02:37:29 AM 1199 Views
No one says it's easy, but the alternatives are so much worse ironclad - 18/11/2015 08:18:47 AM 1612 Views
Just answer one question Tom - 20/11/2015 06:05:41 PM 1138 Views
Re: Just answer one question ironclad - 20/11/2015 10:34:35 PM 1622 Views
You're so naive. Tom - 22/11/2015 06:25:04 PM 1178 Views
Trump maintains his lead. A poll today from New Hampshire has him solidly leading. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:55:00 AM 1072 Views
Calling all liberal posters - Paris Mastermind boasts about using the refugee crisis Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 04:30:25 AM 1127 Views
Again, you're doing a great job for them. ironclad - 17/11/2015 08:17:09 AM 1603 Views
"Even if there were a handful of terrorists among the refugees" Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 01:23:54 PM 1228 Views
Re: "Even if there were a handful of terrorists among the refugees" DomA - 19/11/2015 11:42:12 PM 1307 Views
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...." moondog - 20/11/2015 12:37:55 AM 1244 Views
It's a fucking statue. It has nothing to do with freedom or anything of the sort. Cannoli - 20/11/2015 01:17:57 AM 1222 Views
Well said Tom - 20/11/2015 08:03:26 PM 1198 Views
For better or worse... gban007 - 21/11/2015 04:56:50 AM 1211 Views
Re: For better or worse... Cannoli - 24/11/2015 02:19:50 AM 1322 Views
Re: For better or worse... gban007 - 27/11/2015 09:51:16 PM 1386 Views
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