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Re: Whats the difference between a Predator Drone or an Improved Explosive Device such as a Landmine Roland00 Send a noteboard - 01/03/2016 07:47:08 PM

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What I meant is that you're using the modern definition of the word villain to debate whether or not the people getting killed are actually villains or not, so the whole history of the word seems rather irrelevant to the discussion. You could cut it all out completely and just ask if the people being killed by drones are actually villains or not and the entire point of your post would be exactly the same, plus it would be easier to understand what you're asking and might lead to more debate on the issue you want to talk about instead of a bunch of people saying "um, what?"

No you just do not get it. The process of how decisions are made are just as important as the end result. Now when I say you do not get it, I am referring to you do not get my thought process or where I am coming from. If you though I could just simplify what I said to what you said you misunderstand what I was trying to communicate. The nuance and the layers to communication matter and you are missing things for you are trying to get to the endpoint instead of living the journey.

I am sorry that my "parable" went over your head (a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson). But part of telling a parable is that real life is complicated and you can't "oversimplify" or "jump" to the conclusion.

If you used language in a parable that people can identify with, where people think they are being singled out then the parable actually is warped and shifted. This is why Jesus spoke in such general terms as stating a Father, a Shepherd, etc. This is why Jesus used stories to teach life lessons for people were so involved with their problems of their days that they were missing the bigger picture. He told stories to cause people to think about the situation and both the process of attaining a desired result is just as important as the desired result.

Jesus philosophy was a critique of the legalism that came about of the feelings of ever present war (physical war and also cultural war) that occurred during the Hellenistic period of Israel, and came to a big fucking deal with the Maccabean Revolt which occured 200 years prior to Jesus Time (literally 167 BC compared to roughly 33 AD for when Christians said Jesus died so roughly 200 years exactly).

During this time the Jewish people feared invaded but also that they would lose their culture due to the amalgamation of cultures that occurred since Alexander the Great conquered Persia but also Israel, Egypt, Turkey, etc. During this time a perfectionist legal tradition occurred even though the Jewish people forgot why the reason for having Rule X and Rule Y and Rule Z (aka the bigger picture)

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And No my post was not anything about drones, it was after telling the parable giving a real life example in our current present. It was a reflection on who is the enemy, and who is the villian, and are we really sure that person X or person Y is the enemy.


If you make a post, it's up to YOU to make it coherent and understandable to everyone else. If the people replying are confused by it, it's most likely your fault, not ours.

Part of empathy is understanding your preferences are different than other people and thus assume a state of ignorance on purpose and then try to walk a mile in another person shoes. Empathy is understanding that everyone else is aliens, and they can't understand where you are coming from but you still try to communicate anyway.

I am sorry if my thought process is so fundamentally alien to you that you can't understand it. I am sorry you feel threatened and uneasy about this, I am sorry you feel like this is a game of gotcha, it is not. But that is your problem not mine

And that is okay

The wonderful thing about life is we learn from each other wisdom and part of that is learning to be okay with "alien thought processes." Community is learning to be warmed by people who are not you and have different priorities than you, yet you still share in your mirth and happiness and want for them to be successful despite they think differently than you. Part of community is translating temporary feelings of joy and pain into longer hold near permanent feelings such as happiness, anger and sadness by the sharing of thought processes and the dreams and wishes of people who are not you. It is like resampling a good glace of wine not by cracking open a new bottle but instead remembering and re-sensing the past bottle inside your mind and then comparing it to the other bottles of wine you have drank throughout your life.

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