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Maybe at this point, we're wondering how so many Jews survived to bitch if the Holocaust was so bad Cannoli Send a noteboard - 12/04/2017 11:41:04 PM

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Twice.

Back in the day, this MB would have lit up within minutes of his press conference. I guess that's what Twitter does today.

My personal favorite was his fumbling homina, homina attempt at climbing out of the hole he dug for himself. I assume what he originally wanted to say was Hitler never used gas on the battlefield. But by referring to the death camps as Holocaust Centers, he had to win the prize for press secretary spin doctor euphemism of the year, if not of the decade.

Holocaust Centers. Could they be booked for wedding receptions? Better yet, how about bar mitvahs?


What's wrong with it? They were the places where the Holocaust was performed. IMO, solid, non-portable dwellings disqualify anything from being a camp. Death camps is a sort of anti euphemism, and a form of virtue signalling by trying to come up with a nasty name. Their technical name was concentration camps, because they concentrated the population in a few places to deal with them. Death camps could mean just about anything, but Holocaust center is very specific. It distinguishes Hitler's camps from everyone else's. We had death camps, for crying out loud. Mr. Miyagi's wife died in one, so it would technically be a death camp. But we sure as shit didn't commit the Holocaust, so why don't we use Spicer's name when refering to the German ones? Also, a lot of other people were killed besides the gas victims.

The distinction is that in the Holocaust centers (that name is really growing on me), the problem with the gas was that it was one of the ways people were being murdered for suspect reasons and largely without due process. The gas is irrelevant, and the Holocaust centers would not be an iota more moral if the Allgemeine-SS restricted themselves to starvation, bullets, beatings and lethal injections. Gas as a weapon on the battlefield, on the other hand is indiscriminate and remains a hazard after the fact, by design. Sure, unexploded bombs and shells also do that, but those are ordnance that failed to function properly. Gas that poisons nearby civilians, or people passing through after the battle, is simply doing the job for which is was made. Killing people in war is one thing, but using particularly dangerous methods that are incapable of limiting their collateral damage is something else, and it is something our debased media is ignoring, because they are more interested in making themselves look smart and trashing the administration, instead of doing their job. And you're no better.

There is actually a serious issue here, such as whether or not the deployment of chemical weapons merits the US response so far given, and whether or not it was effective for what we were tryign to do, or moral to do so. In my opinion, the answer to all of those questions is no, but we're not talking about that, we're all patting ourselves on the back for making fun of mere word choices.

Cannoli
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So, no posts or comments about buffone di corte Sean Spicer stepping on his dick yesterday? - 12/04/2017 04:52:47 PM 722 Views
I thought about it, but I can't handle it anymore. - 12/04/2017 05:37:20 PM 457 Views
I have pretty much stopped watching the news *NM* - 12/04/2017 05:54:03 PM 256 Views
Sounds a lot like people choosing to be offended - 12/04/2017 05:59:26 PM 474 Views
I don't think offended would be the word I would choose - 12/04/2017 06:13:58 PM 514 Views
As I mentioned I have stopped watching the news so not up to date on the digging part. - 12/04/2017 07:41:29 PM 474 Views
I agree that was his intent and stated so in my original comments. - 12/04/2017 07:49:06 PM 410 Views
can't defend that *NM* - 12/04/2017 10:40:48 PM 235 Views
It seems never is not entirely accurate. Almost never. - 12/04/2017 08:11:22 PM 569 Views
Interesting. I didn't know that. *NM* - 12/04/2017 08:15:13 PM 245 Views
Me neither, this controversy made me look it up just now. - 12/04/2017 08:41:21 PM 444 Views
first I saw that - 12/04/2017 10:43:42 PM 538 Views
That's a bad maxim. Many are. - 12/04/2017 07:50:08 PM 459 Views
"Everyone knew what he meant?" - 12/04/2017 06:21:06 PM 515 Views
Which words are you struggling with? - 12/04/2017 07:44:26 PM 516 Views
There's no need to be a dick about it. - 13/04/2017 02:25:51 PM 631 Views
there is no need to act like you don't know what he meant to say - 13/04/2017 05:04:22 PM 488 Views
I'm not acting. I don't think what he meant is as clear as you seem to. - 13/04/2017 10:07:32 PM 486 Views
Oooh don't get me started. - 14/04/2017 01:27:37 PM 451 Views
I KNOW - 14/04/2017 01:54:00 PM 520 Views
WoT! On the CMB?! - 14/04/2017 02:48:00 PM 402 Views
We are trendsetters. - 14/04/2017 03:52:25 PM 519 Views
The first time it was! *NM* - 14/04/2017 04:14:04 PM 246 Views
Yes. - 14/04/2017 04:19:49 PM 460 Views
Exactly! - 14/04/2017 04:43:49 PM 470 Views
Yeah I think you nailed it. - 14/04/2017 04:59:27 PM 424 Views
Good point *NM* - 14/04/2017 05:13:53 PM 287 Views
He failed. There really is no defense. - 12/04/2017 06:25:31 PM 457 Views
How is it real issue? Becuase he worded it poorly? - 12/04/2017 07:46:15 PM 467 Views
I think you should stop defending him. - 13/04/2017 03:08:32 AM 410 Views
Or the more silly things people get worked up about the more serious things get ignored - 13/04/2017 01:20:29 PM 497 Views
First of all, lube helps prevent butt hurt. - 13/04/2017 03:29:36 PM 480 Views
*NM* - 13/04/2017 03:38:55 PM 254 Views
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I am sure I wouldn't know, but I agree with the post content. - 13/04/2017 04:09:59 PM 459 Views
well I'm notthe one getting butthurt over what he said so you may want to pass the tube around - 13/04/2017 04:51:52 PM 523 Views
Are you purposefully obtuse? - 13/04/2017 05:50:44 PM 604 Views
Seems to me you're just both talking about different things. - 13/04/2017 06:06:24 PM 520 Views
yeah what you said - 13/04/2017 07:07:10 PM 488 Views
Sometimes, even lube doesn't help. - 14/04/2017 04:25:22 PM 448 Views
Par for the course. *NM* - 12/04/2017 06:24:06 PM 232 Views
I think I know what he intended to say... - 12/04/2017 06:27:33 PM 509 Views
It actually reminded me of what I still think is the best Bushism ever... - 12/04/2017 07:17:09 PM 501 Views
Yes. This. *NM* - 13/04/2017 09:36:00 AM 272 Views
excalibur says Spicer reminds him of Comical Ali - 12/04/2017 09:25:20 PM 539 Views
Maybe at this point, we're wondering how so many Jews survived to bitch if the Holocaust was so bad - 12/04/2017 11:41:04 PM 511 Views
Death camps are a subset of concentration camps, though. It's a term with meaning. - 13/04/2017 12:09:06 AM 437 Views
But they're ALL Holocaust centers! See? *NM* - 13/04/2017 06:19:19 PM 253 Views
The chief fool's fool acted foolishly. - 13/04/2017 04:56:54 PM 469 Views

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