McChrystal's job is to figure out what it will take to win and secure the country.
Obama's job is to figure out if he wants to win and secure the country (not the actual means by doing so).
Ideally, this is how it will work, but Presidents have an awful record of half-assing such decisions (due to politics) that in turn just cause more deaths and no results.
Obama's job is to figure out if he wants to win and secure the country (not the actual means by doing so).
Ideally, this is how it will work, but Presidents have an awful record of half-assing such decisions (due to politics) that in turn just cause more deaths and no results.
He needed to not look soft on fighting terrorism but of course he could not support Bush's hated war in Iraq so he decided to make the political decision to support Afghanistan as the "good war" so now he owns it. The problem is Afghanistan may be unwinnable in a time frame of less 10 years (that is ten more not two more) and there is little political will in this country to lose more lives and more money to secure one of the most worthless places on the globe. So now he has a very difficult central front on terrorism his own party doesn’t want to fight.
Whatever Obama is going to do he needs to do it soon. We need to either pull back and just strike training camps from the air or we need to put enough troops in to control the area. We had a near disaster this weekend and almost had an outpost overrun with bad guys actually making it inside the perimeter.
Here is the nightmare scenario that we could see if things keep going like they are. If we continue to send guys and tell them to control the area but give the them to few men we risk getting one of these outpost truly overrun run and then we are screwed. Having one 80 man outpost overrun is not significant from a strategic point of view since they could never hold it but the political fallout would be staggering. If they manage to move twenty or so American POWs back across the border into Pakistan then what? Invade Pakistan? Negotiate with the Taliban and do so from a position of weakness? Leave them there? It would be ten times worse the Somalia.
I don't agree that McChrystal's opinion is the only one the matters, that privilege would be Obama's cross to bear. You can't half fight a war, you either fight it to win or don't spend the lives and treasure. If Obama doesn't trust McChrystal's judgment he needs to can him and put someone in place he does have faith in. To leave McChrystal in charge and deny him the troops he thinks he needs would be simply stupid.
Whatever Obama is going to do he needs to do it soon. We need to either pull back and just strike training camps from the air or we need to put enough troops in to control the area. We had a near disaster this weekend and almost had an outpost overrun with bad guys actually making it inside the perimeter.
Here is the nightmare scenario that we could see if things keep going like they are. If we continue to send guys and tell them to control the area but give the them to few men we risk getting one of these outpost truly overrun run and then we are screwed. Having one 80 man outpost overrun is not significant from a strategic point of view since they could never hold it but the political fallout would be staggering. If they manage to move twenty or so American POWs back across the border into Pakistan then what? Invade Pakistan? Negotiate with the Taliban and do so from a position of weakness? Leave them there? It would be ten times worse the Somalia.
I don't agree that McChrystal's opinion is the only one the matters, that privilege would be Obama's cross to bear. You can't half fight a war, you either fight it to win or don't spend the lives and treasure. If Obama doesn't trust McChrystal's judgment he needs to can him and put someone in place he does have faith in. To leave McChrystal in charge and deny him the troops he thinks he needs would be simply stupid.
*MySmiley*
More troops to Afghan - what will Obama do?
05/10/2009 04:02:29 PM
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The current situtation is untenable.
05/10/2009 04:59:50 PM
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We have to tread carefully with Pakistan
06/10/2009 05:55:19 AM
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Carefully thought through for how many more years of destabilization and death?
06/10/2009 03:44:58 PM
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Destabilization and death has been going on for decades in Afghanistan...
07/10/2009 07:35:00 AM
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I think Congo might think their civil war is the most savage . . .
07/10/2009 01:16:28 PM
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Obama is trapped by his own rhetoric
05/10/2009 05:28:43 PM
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One quick thing.....
05/10/2009 07:10:28 PM
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Not sure I agree
05/10/2009 07:32:35 PM
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Well...
05/10/2009 07:49:29 PM
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Missed my point a bit/or I was unclear, but I think we agree.....
05/10/2009 08:13:54 PM
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Pulling out now would be bad because...
06/10/2009 12:26:28 AM
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Hooaahh!! Another for the green
06/10/2009 12:34:20 AM
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Well...
06/10/2009 01:18:43 AM
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It's tricky
06/10/2009 03:47:27 AM
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Actually, HUMINT is one of the fastest promoting MOS's in the Army
06/10/2009 03:55:15 AM
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Re: Actually, HUMINT is one of the fastest promoting MOS's in the Army
06/10/2009 04:03:14 AM
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how old are you?
06/10/2009 12:40:22 AM
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Screw your top off jarhead, he's ours
06/10/2009 12:46:20 AM
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what does the army have in common with bannas?
06/10/2009 03:58:07 AM
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Hooah *NM*
06/10/2009 12:55:04 AM
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I'll give you one back one day when I earn the right to say it.
*NM*
07/10/2009 02:35:01 AM
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He sends more troops in and wins the Nobel prize. Up is down, left is right. *NM*
09/10/2009 11:12:27 PM
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