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right on. temeraire Send a noteboard - 10/11/2009 05:20:48 PM
especially about the industry vet, trying to tell kids at vet school it's all rainbows and daisies for the chickens... like there's nothing in it for that guy. what a bunch of crap. everyone skews the stats to make themselves feel better or get more $. to go experience it yourself is the best advice you can give and get.

there is a video that shows how chickens used to look and how they were bred to have bigger breasts and grow faster on less food. they did an mst3k of it...
"it's like the real world, except there's dragons!"

cw, you are missed...
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On "Chicken Crowding" LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:09:38 PM 916 Views
um nossy - 09/11/2009 06:16:06 PM 700 Views
mk, some clarification LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:33:17 PM 620 Views
you obviously have not seen the documentary "Food Inc" , please watch it *NM* Aisha - 09/11/2009 08:09:28 PM 339 Views
I seem to be in the middle of you two nossy - 09/11/2009 08:16:26 PM 627 Views
Yes, because those are never false LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:54:57 PM 609 Views
Citing movie documentaries as necessary "reading" material... Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:34:10 AM 515 Views
Raserei! *NM* Ghavrel - 10/11/2009 08:44:39 AM 270 Views
Bonjour. *NM* Raserei - 10/11/2009 09:43:06 PM 261 Views
Just saw that last night. Mad Cow Bomber - 10/11/2009 11:11:30 AM 680 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:17 AM 557 Views
even just reading the fact check (what I did), that's pretty awful. nossy - 10/11/2009 03:07:39 PM 558 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:18 AM 536 Views
Yea, but.. the smell. Kel - 09/11/2009 08:19:54 PM 613 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:10:57 AM 521 Views
Strongly? Kel - 10/11/2009 03:17:40 AM 510 Views
Chicken = yummy. *NM* Tigr - 09/11/2009 08:33:01 PM 415 Views
Ya know... MightyYT - 09/11/2009 08:49:32 PM 540 Views
that's half the reason i get so up in arms for the industry LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:57:05 PM 609 Views
Not all vegetarians are militant, ya know. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/11/2009 10:30:58 PM 625 Views
Which is great if you can only think in binary snoopcester - 09/11/2009 10:59:29 PM 496 Views
free range has a lot of issues people don't know about LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:15:10 PM 568 Views
Indeed, it isn't perfect. snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:31:36 PM 513 Views
i would pick the regulated one. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:32:50 PM 512 Views
Well that is a clear issue snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:44:07 PM 487 Views
ah well good for the UK then LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:46:29 PM 514 Views
To correct myself, it is actually an EU standard snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:56:38 AM 610 Views
yeah Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:16:19 AM 620 Views
the pain problem with the diesase management LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:21:31 AM 490 Views
I suggest you shut the flock up. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:30:28 AM 671 Views
you are horrible LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:37:15 AM 613 Views
flock-to-flock contamination is quite a problem if you're trying to not feed the birds antibiotics. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:59:10 AM 564 Views
Free range gays? Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:35:39 AM 468 Views
well theoretically LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:02:16 PM 455 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:31:58 PM 435 Views
Ummm... Danu - 10/11/2009 08:05:20 PM 564 Views
they're scattered here and there LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 08:22:31 PM 433 Views
I didn't find any posts that damning or anything. everynametaken - 11/11/2009 03:25:07 AM 542 Views
the only other one I've seen was by Nate snoopcester - 11/11/2009 10:58:21 AM 503 Views
Some questions and comments: Danu - 09/11/2009 09:37:56 PM 633 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:07:32 PM 556 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:19:07 PM 570 Views
Dear meathead snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:33:36 PM 575 Views
i was not referring specifically to you. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:35:01 PM 462 Views
Fair enough, I didn't realise you were making unrelated comments for no clear reason snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:42:59 PM 479 Views
it was related to what you were saying about standards LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:44:27 PM 445 Views
No, it was not related to what I was saying about chicken raising standards snoopcester - 10/11/2009 10:55:18 AM 464 Views
LOL, sorry sis, but the meathead thing was cute. Methinks I have a new nickname for my favoritest. StarrBecca - 10/11/2009 12:43:08 AM 534 Views
great LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 12:46:28 AM 433 Views
*sigh* LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:14:27 PM 597 Views
You should use the quote box thingy on the far right of the Smiley Codes, it would make it easier Danu - 10/11/2009 01:01:02 AM 530 Views
ah, thank you for pointing that box out, i hadn't seen it. LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:30:50 AM 618 Views
right on. temeraire - 10/11/2009 05:20:48 PM 470 Views
we modified every domestic animal we have random thoughts - 10/11/2009 05:36:37 PM 433 Views
especially chickens. Chickens haven't even really ever lived in the wild... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 05:25:20 PM 527 Views
I know what you're trying to say, and I believe you. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:54:09 AM 554 Views
most domesticated animals don't eat what they'd "naturally" eat LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:10:36 PM 494 Views
true. But I think at this point we are getting away from commercially raised and more towards pets. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:29:01 PM 571 Views
A full-grown chicken needs 4sq ft coop and 10 sq ft outside space... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 12:51:00 AM 526 Views
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