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Does anyone know the legal effect of this referendum? Tim Send a noteboard - 02/12/2009 10:00:54 PM
Is the government now bound to legislate accordingly, assuming a successful challenge isn't made? Or are Swiss referenda like those in the UK and New Zealand, where the government asks the people what they want, and then does what they wanted to do anyway regardless of the result?

If it's a non-binding referendum, then I think this is being greatly over-hyped by the media. Although it's a bad result, it's not nearly so significant if it doesn't actually have the effect of changing the law.
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.

—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.

—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
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It seems the Swiss ban on muslim minarets has passed rather quietly AgentOrange - 02/12/2009 04:15:22 PM 716 Views
This is surprising. Avendesora - 02/12/2009 04:19:03 PM 433 Views
Not here, it certainly hasn't. Legolas - 02/12/2009 04:34:55 PM 456 Views
Nor here. It's all over our news. *NM* Tim - 02/12/2009 10:01:57 PM 192 Views
I mostly support the Swiss decision. As from my comment at Der Spiegel, The Shrike - 02/12/2009 05:54:11 PM 442 Views
Re: I mostly support the Swiss decision. As from my comment at Der Spiegel, Vodalus - 02/12/2009 06:23:09 PM 436 Views
I understand the first in Qatar was built in 2003. Legolas - 02/12/2009 10:11:31 PM 404 Views
Yes, with no steeple and no bell! Vodalus - 03/12/2009 12:48:12 AM 429 Views
Ah yes, now that you mention it. Legolas - 03/12/2009 12:52:26 AM 413 Views
So you ban the steeples where church bells are not needed? Cannoli - 02/12/2009 07:19:16 PM 446 Views
I would take an equal line against steeples where there is no bell/or no bell allowed to be used. The Shrike - 02/12/2009 08:29:21 PM 452 Views
see here is what i dont get Aisha - 03/12/2009 05:21:10 AM 402 Views
I saw it posted elsewhere LadyLorraine - 02/12/2009 06:09:33 PM 399 Views
Does anyone know the legal effect of this referendum? Tim - 02/12/2009 10:00:54 PM 426 Views
It's Switzerland. Their referendums are binding. Legolas - 02/12/2009 10:07:52 PM 442 Views
Do the Swiss think they live in 5th-century BC Athens or something? Tim - 02/12/2009 10:11:29 PM 424 Views
Switzerland is odd in a great many ways. Legolas - 02/12/2009 10:14:26 PM 441 Views
Actually, I think I meant the European Court of Human Rights, not the ECJ. Tim - 02/12/2009 10:16:38 PM 427 Views
Yeah, but does that one have any power? Legolas - 02/12/2009 10:17:54 PM 441 Views
ECHR Article 9 – Freedom of thought, conscience and religion Tim - 02/12/2009 10:52:35 PM 529 Views
I feel like I'm missing something in this debate Isaac - 02/12/2009 11:21:03 PM 385 Views
The latter. Legolas - 02/12/2009 11:22:49 PM 434 Views
Huh, that's bizarre Isaac - 02/12/2009 11:39:03 PM 413 Views
It's coming from a party... Legolas - 02/12/2009 11:42:49 PM 525 Views
sicherheit schaffen, that's great! Isaac - 03/12/2009 12:00:00 AM 388 Views
I'm hoping you mean great in the bad way. Legolas - 03/12/2009 12:05:30 AM 425 Views
Re: I'm hoping you mean great in the bad way. Isaac - 03/12/2009 02:03:33 AM 418 Views
Thank you, I guess? smaug - 03/12/2009 12:14:08 PM 412 Views
I don't really see a problem with it random thoughts - 02/12/2009 10:09:55 PM 412 Views
They pretty much have. Legolas - 02/12/2009 10:16:46 PM 431 Views
that was kind of my thought LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 12:17:23 AM 392 Views
I would say it is a bit reactionary but i guess it depends on your definition of intolerance random thoughts - 03/12/2009 03:39:48 PM 442 Views
Several points... Legolas - 03/12/2009 07:15:17 PM 428 Views
The Adhan can really get to you Isaac - 02/12/2009 11:14:47 PM 494 Views
At least that one can sing. Legolas - 02/12/2009 11:24:03 PM 433 Views
Re: At least that one can sing. Isaac - 02/12/2009 11:41:20 PM 419 Views
just wanted to say high random thoughts - 03/12/2009 03:37:45 PM 431 Views
I think it seems kind of a silly waste of government power... LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 12:27:29 AM 410 Views
It's not the government that did it. *NM* Legolas - 03/12/2009 12:29:35 AM 195 Views
*re reads* Oh. I guess it's really power to the people over there LadyLorraine - 03/12/2009 12:35:59 AM 383 Views
Unfortunately, sometimes... *NM* smaug - 03/12/2009 12:15:29 PM 222 Views
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