not since the bankruptcy act which does not allow you to declare bankruptcy and get out of your credit card debt from doing so. so, you're still on the hook for those credit cards, even if most of the rest of your debt is erased (or close to it). not only are you still liable for credit cards, but in some cases, your credit card debt takes precedent over things like child support/alimony. i would hardly call consumer bankruptcy a bailout, but i guess it's probably the closest thing the average person has...
Much of what you said is simply not true. You absolutely can walk away from credit card debt, mortgage debt, IRS debt, etc...
The different in the 05 laws is you could not abuse the system as much as it was before. Prior to 05 I could wrack up 20k in credit card debt a short time before I filed, and walk away from it all. That's just bad policy.
Under the new law I have to pay back any major purchases made within the last 90 days before filing. If it is an extremely large purchase, i.e. 100k cash loan 6 months out, you will get challenged on it and might have to pay it back.
Bankruptcy is the bailout solution for many consumers.
bailout implies that the government is taking special measures to ensure your solvency. this is (i think) what the guy was pissed off about, that the government will bend over backwards to help big business, but do mostly nothing for the people. any entity can declare bankruptcy, it's not like it's a special situation that individual consumers have over corporations. in fact, it's the opposite, because consumers only really have two choices for bankruptcy, compared to roughly a dozen different ways for a corporation.
also, considering that before and after the rewriting of the consumer bankruptcy laws the majority of filings were for overwhelming medical expenses, i'm still not convinced that (a) the system was truly being abused that badly and (b) requiring most of your credit card debt to take precedence over other debt is showing responsibility.
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Plane Crash Suspect's Online Diatribe
- 18/02/2010 08:50:36 PM
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Definately not to start a fight about anything regarding anything....
- 18/02/2010 11:05:50 PM
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We'll never know his ultimate motivation for sure but I suspect he would take great pleasure in...
- 19/02/2010 12:47:22 AM
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He made his motivation chillingly clear.
- 19/02/2010 03:22:28 AM
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It's a growing sentiment in TX and other "red" states....
- 19/02/2010 04:03:00 AM
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Ya'll realize dude ended his suicide note by quoting Marx, right?
- 19/02/2010 04:42:01 AM
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I had to drive by there yesterday...
- 19/02/2010 03:17:42 AM
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I have to respond.
- 19/02/2010 04:38:40 AM
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one point
- 19/02/2010 05:30:46 AM
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With subsidies and tax breaks some pay negative taxes despite healthy profits.
- 19/02/2010 05:52:40 AM
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Re: one point
- 19/02/2010 06:07:42 AM
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bankruptcy is hardly a bailout
- 19/02/2010 06:48:02 AM
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Re: bankruptcy is hardly a bailout
- 19/02/2010 07:13:04 AM
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i'm still not convinced
- 19/02/2010 03:12:03 PM
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besides...
- 20/02/2010 12:58:55 AM
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A LOT of things are different depending on whether a corporation or human being does them.
- 23/02/2010 11:41:15 PM
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Welcome to the fray.
- 19/02/2010 05:49:08 AM
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- 19/02/2010 05:49:08 AM
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Not to endorse Joel's love declaration to socialism, but you're not exactly one to talk re: strawmen
- 19/02/2010 04:21:50 PM
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There is a huge difference between greed and motivation, drive, and ingenuity.
- 20/02/2010 01:07:12 AM
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Then fucking go already, and stop trying to impose this dream society on the rest of us
- 19/02/2010 02:21:30 PM
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When you work for the IRS you take your chances.
- 19/02/2010 02:23:00 PM
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are you fucking kidding me?
- 19/02/2010 02:34:11 PM
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Yes, because you are so easy, and I am out of shoe-throwing range.
- 19/02/2010 02:46:27 PM
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Re: Yes, because you are so easy, and I am out of shoe-throwing range.
- 19/02/2010 03:00:56 PM
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are you real person?
- 22/02/2010 04:40:28 PM
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It can be hard to tell.
- 23/02/2010 11:09:51 PM
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So I guess that makes it 80-1 for the month of February.
- 19/02/2010 08:42:15 PM
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As charming as ever I see. *NM*
- 20/02/2010 01:08:22 AM
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Look, I think Dragonsoul take the Muslim thing too far occasionally
- 20/02/2010 05:40:58 AM
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Weak is all hes got.
- 20/02/2010 08:36:27 AM
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I've noticed that while everynametaken is a quality poster...
- 20/02/2010 10:14:09 PM
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I find that he tends to do it when he wants to argue a cause...
- 20/02/2010 10:16:50 PM
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I don't bother with you because you don't actually want to hear what I or anyone else has to say.
- 21/02/2010 12:37:40 AM
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In denial much?
- 21/02/2010 01:38:31 AM
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Again, if you think thereligionofpeace.com is a serious source then you are simply sad.
- 22/02/2010 01:06:55 AM
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Is it?
- 20/02/2010 10:26:16 PM
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Exactly. Besides that I don't take his source as a source at all.
- 21/02/2010 12:21:15 AM
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Well that's quite selective.
- 21/02/2010 12:35:07 AM
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Whoopty-fucking-doo!
- 21/02/2010 12:42:28 AM
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If Dragonsoul brought it up out of nowhere, then it's not an issue
- 22/02/2010 11:12:57 PM
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