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"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM

Hey, I had a great idea: what if we tried teaching the goddamn truth in school? What if we tried being impartial and fair and presenting history as it occurred and our best understanding thereof rather than politicizing education to serve our own stupid, small minded ends? What if we tried that?

Fucking disgusting.


Orson Scott Card wrote a piece on something similiar to this going on in N. Carolina right now, see link.

Edit: Wrong link, same writer, wrong article, fixed now.
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Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives Darth_Katie - 13/03/2010 12:02:15 AM 1195 Views
"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM 513 Views
Exactly, no such thing as "Impartial" history Brian - 13/03/2010 12:54:49 AM 403 Views
So is "a sinless life," but that doesn't justify murder. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:22:16 AM 174 Views
Strange choice of analogies... Isaac - 14/03/2010 12:17:03 PM 408 Views
I could be wrong, but I think his point was simply... Legolas - 14/03/2010 03:53:23 PM 496 Views
I think it was that it just seems too out of place Isaac - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM 535 Views
I dunno, you didn't elaborate much on your oxymoron statement. Legolas - 14/03/2010 04:29:04 PM 525 Views
It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Isaac - 14/03/2010 05:20:33 PM 577 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Legolas - 14/03/2010 05:51:58 PM 595 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Isaac - 14/03/2010 06:31:45 PM 541 Views
I would object to the idea that objectivity was ever the goal random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:46:08 PM 498 Views
Heil! Urza - 13/03/2010 12:22:35 AM 555 Views
It's about time. Dragonsoul - 13/03/2010 01:17:25 AM 538 Views
Don't forget interned German-Americans in BOTH world wars. *NM* Macharius - 13/03/2010 02:47:25 AM 295 Views
Oh I haven't, but being Italian myself it's an issue close to my heart. *NM* Dragonsoul - 13/03/2010 04:41:19 AM 248 Views
Some of it can make sense nossy - 13/03/2010 01:28:53 AM 598 Views
effing retarded *NM* Aisha - 13/03/2010 01:38:10 AM 190 Views
Re: Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives Angel Barchild - 13/03/2010 03:10:22 AM 525 Views
Many of those subjects are relevant school topics. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 13/03/2010 04:43:41 AM 257 Views
Yes, because this article is all about presenting the truth in an unbiased manner *NM* AgentOrange - 13/03/2010 11:02:20 AM 173 Views
I'm assuming Art. 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 is banned from Texan history lessons, then? Tim - 13/03/2010 12:26:41 PM 456 Views
And, along similar lines, both Article VII of the US Constitution and Missouri v. Holland. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:26:10 AM 181 Views
I assume you mean Article VI? Tim - 14/03/2010 10:32:36 AM 434 Views
Yes. It's not a very good ruling. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 10:51:55 PM 179 Views
I would assume the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 would outside of the scope of a Texas history lesson random thoughts - 16/03/2010 07:54:53 PM 478 Views
Do the states just teach their own history, as opposed to that of what-was-then-the-USA? *NM* Tim - 16/03/2010 11:57:06 PM 250 Views
They teach both...at least at the college level. U.S. history and Texas History were requirements.. *NM* Brian - 17/03/2010 05:38:46 AM 249 Views
Texas history or Texas government? random thoughts - 18/03/2010 06:53:15 PM 387 Views
Good question....I don't remember if it was history or govt to be honest. *NM* Brian - 18/03/2010 07:59:10 PM 255 Views
In Texas they make you take Texas history in the 7th grade random thoughts - 18/03/2010 07:26:13 PM 455 Views
A fascinating thing, culture wars. Legolas - 14/03/2010 04:16:35 PM 572 Views
When does revisionist history descend to the level of mere hypocrisy? I weep for my country. Joel - 15/03/2010 04:16:25 AM 658 Views
calling Zavala a city is a bit of a stretch don't you think? random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:39:03 PM 478 Views
Seguin's a city, or at least town; Zavala is a county. Joel - 15/03/2010 09:00:54 PM 436 Views
Pfft, Seguin is a dump. Brian - 15/03/2010 09:11:09 PM 449 Views
Not the point! Joel - 15/03/2010 09:30:19 PM 412 Views
Zavalla is a town as well and city is a bit of stretch for Seguin random thoughts - 15/03/2010 10:23:41 PM 394 Views
Fair enough, just trying to make clear I was speaking about municipality and county, respectively. Joel - 29/03/2010 03:49:30 PM 418 Views
See the problem is the argument is total BS random thoughts - 29/03/2010 05:27:53 PM 452 Views
Dunno if I'd go that far. Joel - 29/03/2010 08:50:40 PM 549 Views
I am sure you wouldn't random thoughts - 31/03/2010 04:19:09 PM 477 Views
Don't you guys essentially list all of the handful guys who fought at the Alamo already, anyway? *NM* Legolas - 29/03/2010 08:55:34 PM 173 Views
There was 190 or so people there so no they are not all in the textbook random thoughts - 31/03/2010 05:31:41 PM 460 Views
Based on this article it is worryingly political snoopcester - 15/03/2010 11:46:53 AM 405 Views
Do you have any examples of where they are not teaching the truth? random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:42:27 PM 427 Views
I think it is what they are leaving out that is worrisome. Beqi - 15/03/2010 06:58:38 PM 442 Views
I don't see anything sayting they are leaving that out random thoughts - 15/03/2010 08:26:50 PM 437 Views
We were talking about this last night Beqi - 15/03/2010 11:38:02 PM 611 Views
Also Beqi - 15/03/2010 11:41:45 PM 369 Views
Still not sure I see a problem random thoughts - 16/03/2010 04:58:50 PM 383 Views
This thread is indeed making me wonder how textbooks are used in the US... Legolas - 16/03/2010 05:05:13 PM 371 Views
for political posturing of course random thoughts - 16/03/2010 05:26:13 PM 446 Views
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