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I think it was that it just seems too out of place Isaac Send a noteboard - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM
I think it would be more accurate as a comparison to say "Everyone's a sinner, so your account that no one was murdered in your history books seems implausible"

Did you read the article I linked to or are you just assuming I was implying outright distortion of historical facts in children's textbooks is A-Okay?


that just because a given goal (in this case perfect objectivity in history books) is impossible to attain completely, it doesn't mean that one should give up on the goal entirely, or refuse to even make the attempt.


I'm rather unclear on why his comment is felt necessary though, since saying history should strive to be accurate is like saying science should strive to figure things out or clergy should seek to preach their faith. So essentially me say it's oxymoronic and him replying that we should strive for impartiality is sort of like my saying 'science doesn't know it all' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should stop trying' or my saying 'no man can hope to know the mind of God' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should all become atheists'. It just seems so out of place unless he assumed I was saying propaganda and distortion in history was fine which is why I queried and asked about the link, which happens to be a long rant by a centrist democrat about people flavoring kid's history books for political reasons. Mine is a cynical but true comment on history and on the NYT, which certainly knows about this and has chosen to highlight Texas when a lot of other states are doing the same thing under what I can only assume is the intentional equivalent of saying "The KKK is against gun control" an essentially transparent comment.

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Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives - 13/03/2010 12:02:15 AM 1331 Views
"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM 617 Views
Exactly, no such thing as "Impartial" history - 13/03/2010 12:54:49 AM 496 Views
So is "a sinless life," but that doesn't justify murder. *NM* - 14/03/2010 12:22:16 AM 213 Views
Strange choice of analogies... - 14/03/2010 12:17:03 PM 504 Views
I could be wrong, but I think his point was simply... - 14/03/2010 03:53:23 PM 582 Views
I think it was that it just seems too out of place - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM 633 Views
I dunno, you didn't elaborate much on your oxymoron statement. - 14/03/2010 04:29:04 PM 631 Views
It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 05:20:33 PM 675 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 05:51:58 PM 690 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 06:31:45 PM 639 Views
I would object to the idea that objectivity was ever the goal - 15/03/2010 05:46:08 PM 594 Views
Heil! - 13/03/2010 12:22:35 AM 651 Views
It's about time. - 13/03/2010 01:17:25 AM 636 Views
Don't forget interned German-Americans in BOTH world wars. *NM* - 13/03/2010 02:47:25 AM 339 Views
Some of it can make sense - 13/03/2010 01:28:53 AM 717 Views
effing retarded *NM* - 13/03/2010 01:38:10 AM 247 Views
Re: Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives - 13/03/2010 03:10:22 AM 626 Views
Many of those subjects are relevant school topics. *shrugs* *NM* - 13/03/2010 04:43:41 AM 307 Views
A fascinating thing, culture wars. - 14/03/2010 04:16:35 PM 664 Views
When does revisionist history descend to the level of mere hypocrisy? I weep for my country. - 15/03/2010 04:16:25 AM 782 Views
calling Zavala a city is a bit of a stretch don't you think? - 15/03/2010 05:39:03 PM 575 Views
Seguin's a city, or at least town; Zavala is a county. - 15/03/2010 09:00:54 PM 536 Views
Pfft, Seguin is a dump. - 15/03/2010 09:11:09 PM 547 Views
Not the point! - 15/03/2010 09:30:19 PM 505 Views
Zavalla is a town as well and city is a bit of stretch for Seguin - 15/03/2010 10:23:41 PM 489 Views
Fair enough, just trying to make clear I was speaking about municipality and county, respectively. - 29/03/2010 03:49:30 PM 516 Views
See the problem is the argument is total BS - 29/03/2010 05:27:53 PM 549 Views
Dunno if I'd go that far. - 29/03/2010 08:50:40 PM 633 Views
I am sure you wouldn't - 31/03/2010 04:19:09 PM 582 Views
Based on this article it is worryingly political - 15/03/2010 11:46:53 AM 504 Views
Do you have any examples of where they are not teaching the truth? - 15/03/2010 05:42:27 PM 522 Views
I think it is what they are leaving out that is worrisome. - 15/03/2010 06:58:38 PM 542 Views
I don't see anything sayting they are leaving that out - 15/03/2010 08:26:50 PM 537 Views
We were talking about this last night - 15/03/2010 11:38:02 PM 744 Views
Also - 15/03/2010 11:41:45 PM 479 Views
Still not sure I see a problem - 16/03/2010 04:58:50 PM 479 Views
This thread is indeed making me wonder how textbooks are used in the US... - 16/03/2010 05:05:13 PM 471 Views
for political posturing of course - 16/03/2010 05:26:13 PM 545 Views

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