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"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM

Hey, I had a great idea: what if we tried teaching the goddamn truth in school? What if we tried being impartial and fair and presenting history as it occurred and our best understanding thereof rather than politicizing education to serve our own stupid, small minded ends? What if we tried that?

Fucking disgusting.


Orson Scott Card wrote a piece on something similiar to this going on in N. Carolina right now, see link.

Edit: Wrong link, same writer, wrong article, fixed now.
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Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives Darth_Katie - 13/03/2010 12:02:15 AM 1331 Views
"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron Isaac - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM 617 Views
Exactly, no such thing as "Impartial" history Brian - 13/03/2010 12:54:49 AM 496 Views
So is "a sinless life," but that doesn't justify murder. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:22:16 AM 213 Views
Strange choice of analogies... Isaac - 14/03/2010 12:17:03 PM 504 Views
I could be wrong, but I think his point was simply... Legolas - 14/03/2010 03:53:23 PM 582 Views
I think it was that it just seems too out of place Isaac - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM 632 Views
I dunno, you didn't elaborate much on your oxymoron statement. Legolas - 14/03/2010 04:29:04 PM 631 Views
It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Isaac - 14/03/2010 05:20:33 PM 675 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Legolas - 14/03/2010 05:51:58 PM 690 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating Isaac - 14/03/2010 06:31:45 PM 639 Views
I would object to the idea that objectivity was ever the goal random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:46:08 PM 594 Views
Heil! Urza - 13/03/2010 12:22:35 AM 651 Views
It's about time. Dragonsoul - 13/03/2010 01:17:25 AM 636 Views
Don't forget interned German-Americans in BOTH world wars. *NM* Macharius - 13/03/2010 02:47:25 AM 339 Views
Oh I haven't, but being Italian myself it's an issue close to my heart. *NM* Dragonsoul - 13/03/2010 04:41:19 AM 290 Views
Some of it can make sense nossy - 13/03/2010 01:28:53 AM 717 Views
effing retarded *NM* Aisha - 13/03/2010 01:38:10 AM 247 Views
Re: Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives Angel Barchild - 13/03/2010 03:10:22 AM 626 Views
Many of those subjects are relevant school topics. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 13/03/2010 04:43:41 AM 306 Views
Yes, because this article is all about presenting the truth in an unbiased manner *NM* AgentOrange - 13/03/2010 11:02:20 AM 226 Views
I'm assuming Art. 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 is banned from Texan history lessons, then? Tim - 13/03/2010 12:26:41 PM 550 Views
And, along similar lines, both Article VII of the US Constitution and Missouri v. Holland. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 12:26:10 AM 221 Views
I assume you mean Article VI? Tim - 14/03/2010 10:32:36 AM 532 Views
Yes. It's not a very good ruling. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/03/2010 10:51:55 PM 225 Views
I would assume the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 would outside of the scope of a Texas history lesson random thoughts - 16/03/2010 07:54:53 PM 569 Views
Do the states just teach their own history, as opposed to that of what-was-then-the-USA? *NM* Tim - 16/03/2010 11:57:06 PM 294 Views
They teach both...at least at the college level. U.S. history and Texas History were requirements.. *NM* Brian - 17/03/2010 05:38:46 AM 295 Views
Texas history or Texas government? random thoughts - 18/03/2010 06:53:15 PM 497 Views
Good question....I don't remember if it was history or govt to be honest. *NM* Brian - 18/03/2010 07:59:10 PM 298 Views
In Texas they make you take Texas history in the 7th grade random thoughts - 18/03/2010 07:26:13 PM 559 Views
A fascinating thing, culture wars. Legolas - 14/03/2010 04:16:35 PM 664 Views
When does revisionist history descend to the level of mere hypocrisy? I weep for my country. Joel - 15/03/2010 04:16:25 AM 782 Views
calling Zavala a city is a bit of a stretch don't you think? random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:39:03 PM 575 Views
Seguin's a city, or at least town; Zavala is a county. Joel - 15/03/2010 09:00:54 PM 536 Views
Pfft, Seguin is a dump. Brian - 15/03/2010 09:11:09 PM 547 Views
Not the point! Joel - 15/03/2010 09:30:19 PM 505 Views
Zavalla is a town as well and city is a bit of stretch for Seguin random thoughts - 15/03/2010 10:23:41 PM 489 Views
Fair enough, just trying to make clear I was speaking about municipality and county, respectively. Joel - 29/03/2010 03:49:30 PM 516 Views
See the problem is the argument is total BS random thoughts - 29/03/2010 05:27:53 PM 549 Views
Dunno if I'd go that far. Joel - 29/03/2010 08:50:40 PM 633 Views
I am sure you wouldn't random thoughts - 31/03/2010 04:19:09 PM 582 Views
Don't you guys essentially list all of the handful guys who fought at the Alamo already, anyway? *NM* Legolas - 29/03/2010 08:55:34 PM 218 Views
There was 190 or so people there so no they are not all in the textbook random thoughts - 31/03/2010 05:31:41 PM 552 Views
Based on this article it is worryingly political snoopcester - 15/03/2010 11:46:53 AM 504 Views
Do you have any examples of where they are not teaching the truth? random thoughts - 15/03/2010 05:42:27 PM 522 Views
I think it is what they are leaving out that is worrisome. Beqi - 15/03/2010 06:58:38 PM 542 Views
I don't see anything sayting they are leaving that out random thoughts - 15/03/2010 08:26:50 PM 537 Views
We were talking about this last night Beqi - 15/03/2010 11:38:02 PM 744 Views
Also Beqi - 15/03/2010 11:41:45 PM 479 Views
Still not sure I see a problem random thoughts - 16/03/2010 04:58:50 PM 479 Views
This thread is indeed making me wonder how textbooks are used in the US... Legolas - 16/03/2010 05:05:13 PM 471 Views
for political posturing of course random thoughts - 16/03/2010 05:26:13 PM 545 Views
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