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AG Eric Holder evades questioning Isaac Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 05:34:40 PM
Before a congressional committee Holder was asked about how he felt we should deal with bin Laden if he was captured, with the obvious parallel to current prisoners and trials, he gave this reply:

Attorney General Eric Holder told a congressional panel Tuesday that the question of reading Osama bin Laden his Miranda rights is absurd – because he won’t be brought in alive.

“Let’s deal with reality,” Holder said. “You’re talking about a hypothetical that will never occur. We will be reading Miranda rights to the corpse of Osama bin Laden. He will never appear in an American courtroom. That’s the reality….He will be killed by us or he will be killed by his own people, so he’s not captured by us. We know that.”


Personally I view this as a total cop out, since it doesn't answer the question, nor do I view it as a hypothetical. If we get bin Laden it's going to probably be when some SF force descends on his hideout from the thin blue sky. Even those willing to die or kill themselves for the cause don't tend to keep a cyanide pill around and it's fairly absurd to take as a given that during a sudden surprise assault he'll blow his brains out or one of his loyal followers will decide to shoot at him instead of the people attacking. Most people who don't want to be taken alive but who the authorities want to take alive tend to be captured alive and your average SF trooper is a good enough shot to be able to not kill him, especially since thanks in no small part to bin Laden our combat medics have become amazingly talented at treating gunshot wounds. He knows that, or should know that, so I have to view that as a deliberately evasive response. Combined with some of his other actions, it only adds to my view of him as sub-par for the vital job of AG. The Attorney General of the US should not be ducking legal questions, especially by using such a thin cover. From either an ethical or legal base there is no reason to treat bin Laden as different from any other foreign terrorist, except as more important and dangerous, so if Holder can't answer this for bin Laden, he obviously doesn't have a decent answer for any of the others. The head of the Department of Justice shouldn't sliding away from answering legal questions on grounds of the answer being politically volatile. And if he does, IMHO, his probably not fit for the job.

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AG Eric Holder evades questioning - 17/03/2010 05:34:40 PM 617 Views
Why should he be read miranda rights? - 17/03/2010 05:50:29 PM 394 Views
You'd rather he walk free on a technicality? - 17/03/2010 11:28:30 PM 362 Views
Line 1 - 18/03/2010 07:14:56 AM 493 Views
Last I checked, al-Qaeda isn't a party to the Geneva Convention. - 18/03/2010 09:16:15 AM 422 Views
I suppose I must concede however, ...... - 18/03/2010 10:20:40 AM 442 Views
just to play devil's advocate... - 18/03/2010 05:18:16 PM 354 Views
Not to mention Miranda is crap anyway. - 19/03/2010 10:18:46 PM 351 Views
*shrugs* - 17/03/2010 11:10:47 PM 366 Views
That doesn't seem very logical - 18/03/2010 12:03:21 AM 448 Views
It is very possible - 18/03/2010 02:12:21 AM 311 Views
Re: It is very possible - 18/03/2010 02:31:59 AM 417 Views
You do remember "I do not recall" Gonzalez right? *NM* - 18/03/2010 02:38:48 AM 148 Views
Actually not really, I was out of the country for almost his entire tenure - 18/03/2010 02:41:13 AM 325 Views
Pretty much there was some political firings of Us Attorneys - 18/03/2010 02:56:01 AM 365 Views
I remember a little of that - 18/03/2010 03:16:27 AM 347 Views
Gonzales flat out lied to congress - 18/03/2010 03:29:14 AM 334 Views
I don't think I agree with that. - 18/03/2010 02:04:48 PM 353 Views
Fair enough - 18/03/2010 02:40:42 PM 347 Views
You guys are forgetting the intel aspect. - 18/03/2010 09:40:53 PM 366 Views
do we know how much he actually knows? - 18/03/2010 09:49:50 PM 340 Views
Kinda hard to find out if he knows anything if he's dead *NM* - 18/03/2010 09:56:18 PM 162 Views
that was totally not my question - 19/03/2010 12:10:06 AM 337 Views
So in sum you are saying - 19/03/2010 12:20:27 AM 356 Views
LOL, it wasn't exactly clear - 19/03/2010 01:42:18 AM 346 Views
Yah, I was just curious how much we were assuming he knew - 19/03/2010 03:05:26 AM 315 Views
I can understand why he'd want to evade answering. - 18/03/2010 03:23:04 AM 414 Views

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