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Unfortunately you chose two very bad examples. Tim Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 02:48:42 PM
"University" doesn't really begin with a vowel. It begins with a "y" sound (like "you") which is a consonant. It's sound, not spelling, that's important. This is why we don't say or write "an university".

Also, in many accents of English, initial "h"s are dropped. Which means "house" does begin with a vowel for those people. They therefore say "thee 'ouse" and "an 'ouse", not the standard pronunciations "thuh house" and "a house" (please excuse the eye-dialect).

However, if we substitute better examples, such as "apple" and "banana", your English teacher is correct (at least for British English – the Americans who posted above seem to disagree). And this is definitely not one of those "zombie rules" which only English teachers believe in and bear no relation to the way people actually talk in the 21st century, like "split infinitives". This is what (British) English speakers actually do.

(Incidentally, I first became aware of this distinction when singing in a choir – when the next word after "the" was over the page, and I was expecting it to be "earth", I would sing "thee", and then get caught out when it turned out to be "world" instead – "thee earth" is right but "thee world" just sounds wrong.)
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.

—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.

—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
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Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? - 23/03/2010 02:06:02 PM 1356 Views
Need? No. - 23/03/2010 02:17:09 PM 526 Views
I've never heard of that in my life. - 23/03/2010 02:29:37 PM 615 Views
I pronounce it both ways - 23/03/2010 02:35:45 PM 606 Views
It's like "a". - 23/03/2010 02:45:14 PM 698 Views
Oh. I do that too. - 23/03/2010 02:59:20 PM 628 Views
"all intenstive purposes"...*shudder* - 23/03/2010 02:45:35 PM 582 Views
Yeah, that makes me shudder, too. People are retarded. *NM* - 23/03/2010 02:50:41 PM 312 Views
I have never actually heard anyone say "all intensive purposes". - 23/03/2010 05:25:37 PM 582 Views
Or you could be surrounded by smarter people than I am. *NM* - 23/03/2010 05:26:44 PM 224 Views
Really? I'd say most people say it incorrectly and most don't even know... - 23/03/2010 09:35:49 PM 600 Views
I do too - 24/03/2010 04:07:56 AM 493 Views
Or irregardless. *shudders* I saw it in the dictionary but really... - 26/03/2010 12:03:13 PM 530 Views
You should a a few words - 26/03/2010 12:42:36 PM 548 Views
What Joe said, almost. - 23/03/2010 04:51:08 PM 783 Views
An history - 23/03/2010 05:07:08 PM 755 Views
(h)erb. *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:37:58 PM 307 Views
I will not use "an." - 24/03/2010 04:59:00 PM 530 Views
Never heard that one - 23/03/2010 05:09:40 PM 565 Views
Heh. - 23/03/2010 05:13:17 PM 690 Views
I wasn't using it as that - 23/03/2010 05:19:43 PM 524 Views
OK. - 23/03/2010 05:25:22 PM 591 Views
It's enough of a rule. - 24/03/2010 05:02:46 PM 559 Views
Re: Never heard that one - 23/03/2010 06:14:21 PM 693 Views
It seems I use them both. - 23/03/2010 06:05:30 PM 537 Views
I also don't post in the correct place, it seems. - 23/03/2010 06:36:59 PM 554 Views
One is sufficient. - 23/03/2010 02:30:53 PM 754 Views
Is it possible you do it and don't realize it? - 23/03/2010 05:11:28 PM 492 Views
I think I do it in many cases, yeah... - 23/03/2010 05:19:13 PM 617 Views
That's what we were taught in school as well - 23/03/2010 02:35:29 PM 591 Views
That's what I thought of, too. - 23/03/2010 05:42:14 PM 600 Views
Re: Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? - 23/03/2010 02:46:41 PM 720 Views
As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. - 23/03/2010 05:49:09 PM 635 Views
Re: As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. - 23/03/2010 06:09:27 PM 515 Views
"Should've" versus "should of" - 23/03/2010 06:46:37 PM 611 Views
Sounds like we're on thee same page. - 23/03/2010 06:58:21 PM 667 Views
I tend to use both - 23/03/2010 10:06:01 PM 588 Views
I think that there are people who pronounce The with that convention - 23/03/2010 02:47:59 PM 608 Views
Unfortunately you chose two very bad examples. - 23/03/2010 02:48:42 PM 815 Views
British English is weird oO - 23/03/2010 02:59:49 PM 621 Views
I don't. - 23/03/2010 03:04:22 PM 616 Views
Right - 23/03/2010 03:10:08 PM 592 Views
duly noted - 23/03/2010 03:10:16 PM 572 Views
I do! - 23/03/2010 10:57:48 PM 594 Views
Shut up, Frenchie! - 23/03/2010 11:03:21 PM 553 Views
Hehe - 23/03/2010 03:06:31 PM 547 Views
"Park Life!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:09:24 PM 233 Views
*NM* - 23/03/2010 03:10:35 PM 259 Views
Heh, thanks for bringing this up. *NM* - 23/03/2010 04:37:07 PM 302 Views
That was my immediate reaction to this post! *NM* - 23/03/2010 05:21:16 PM 352 Views
"y" is a consonant? or the "u" sound - 23/03/2010 09:02:57 PM 723 Views
Hopefully this will explain. - 23/03/2010 11:29:58 PM 654 Views
Re: Hopefully this will explain. - 25/03/2010 08:40:21 PM 804 Views
I've only just discovered I do it. - 23/03/2010 11:02:18 PM 532 Views
AH! - 26/03/2010 11:48:35 AM 508 Views
Whatever the nativespeakers say - 23/03/2010 05:01:16 PM 580 Views
Do you mean "consistent"? If not, I can't work out what you mean by "consequent". - 23/03/2010 05:05:38 PM 534 Views
I can testify that that one is a terribly annoying false friend in Dutch. And apparently in Swedish. - 23/03/2010 05:10:03 PM 685 Views
What do people confuse "eventual" with? "Eventful"? - 23/03/2010 05:12:02 PM 540 Views
You never realize even the most obvious of these things in your own language. - 23/03/2010 05:16:35 PM 608 Views
"Gift" has amused me ever since I started learning German. - 23/03/2010 05:39:48 PM 494 Views
*NM* - 23/03/2010 07:45:48 PM 277 Views
Oh, it must be an incredibly important word to know when visiting Europe. - 23/03/2010 08:12:19 PM 604 Views
Even so. - 23/03/2010 08:29:52 PM 589 Views
I wasnt invited! - 23/03/2010 09:04:16 PM 582 Views
You were so. - 23/03/2010 09:05:58 PM 515 Views
Nah, it's not about EFL, it's about Dutch-English false friends. - 23/03/2010 05:17:28 PM 715 Views
Wait! The English eventual doesnt mean that? - 23/03/2010 05:21:19 PM 564 Views
English "eventual" means something like "in the end". - 23/03/2010 05:23:33 PM 562 Views
Whoops! - 23/03/2010 05:26:05 PM 596 Views
LOL what is it with you today?? *NM* - 23/03/2010 07:57:33 PM 302 Views
You mean that I'm usually brighter? - 23/03/2010 08:13:04 PM 580 Views
How would you translate eventueel into English? "Potential"? "The possibility of"? - 23/03/2010 05:23:58 PM 658 Views
Ah, that's the right word, yes. - 23/03/2010 05:10:19 PM 557 Views
konsekvent - 23/03/2010 06:22:26 PM 566 Views
We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. *NM* - 23/03/2010 06:27:23 PM 376 Views
Re: We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. - 23/03/2010 06:28:47 PM 669 Views
This is an excellent point. - 23/03/2010 08:23:42 PM 461 Views
*clears throat* *NM* - 23/03/2010 07:58:21 PM 267 Views
Okay, we'll let Austrian join too. - 23/03/2010 08:00:26 PM 483 Views
Cool! I'm in! - 23/03/2010 08:16:32 PM 566 Views
I've no doubt its grammar is awesome... making more sense, that sounds rather less likely. *NM* - 23/03/2010 08:23:10 PM 330 Views
Don't listen to her - 23/03/2010 08:24:06 PM 534 Views
Hmpf! Böse Kartoffel! - 23/03/2010 09:05:37 PM 627 Views
Like Esperanto but with germanic roots? Me likey! *NM* - 24/03/2010 04:43:59 PM 317 Views
Nopes. - 23/03/2010 05:03:18 PM 555 Views
In my dialect, it's more or less like that - 23/03/2010 05:35:31 PM 488 Views
I don't, but I'm American, and apparently that makes the difference. - 23/03/2010 05:55:10 PM 626 Views
Try it with a bunch of words starting with vowels, then. - 23/03/2010 05:59:03 PM 527 Views
"thuh" for the first two, seems like "thee" for the rest. - 23/03/2010 06:08:14 PM 630 Views
The (thuh) for all of them. - 23/03/2010 09:53:16 PM 553 Views
Thee for all of them *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:54:58 PM 326 Views
Me too. *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:59:16 PM 293 Views
Thee for all! o/ - 24/03/2010 08:37:23 PM 590 Views
I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't - 23/03/2010 06:05:53 PM 518 Views
Re: I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't - 23/03/2010 06:26:30 PM 710 Views
Just go with instinct - 23/03/2010 06:29:52 PM 557 Views
Quit while you're behind... - 23/03/2010 08:58:26 PM 579 Views
Unless you like to use archaic English, that is - 23/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 558 Views
I somehow doubt that - 25/03/2010 08:09:44 PM 701 Views
I like it - 23/03/2010 06:23:06 PM 571 Views
You sound like him - 23/03/2010 06:32:09 PM 598 Views
Re: You sound like him - 23/03/2010 06:33:03 PM 633 Views
Oh!!! That's just the kind of teacher I'm going to be! *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:06:26 PM 455 Views
Haha good stuff *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:24:37 PM 297 Views
Never heard of that before. *NM* - 23/03/2010 08:18:48 PM 217 Views
I do it - 23/03/2010 09:32:04 PM 506 Views
Same here. *NM* - 23/03/2010 09:33:51 PM 317 Views
I have never heard that before in my life. - 26/03/2010 11:46:44 AM 723 Views

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