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I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Tim Send a noteboard - 24/03/2010 09:27:28 AM
For now, I shall merely say that the thing Camilla said was nothing to do with gender is everything to do with gender. Gender and sex are not the same thing. If you don't believe me, ask a speaker of Swahili, which has eight genders of which one includes people of both sexes.

Norwegian adjectival endings are as follows:

"Strong" form:

Used for adjectives in indefinite noun phrases ("a big thing") and predicates ("the thing is big")

Masc/fem sg: -0 <- that's a zero, not an O. It means "no ending".
Neut sg: -t (this also makes adverbs)
M/F/N pl: -e

"Weak" form:

Used for adjectives in definite noun phrases ("the big thing")

All forms: -e
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.

—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.

—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
This message last edited by Tim on 24/03/2010 at 09:29:05 AM
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Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? Lordling - 23/03/2010 02:06:02 PM 1288 Views
Need? No. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 02:17:09 PM 462 Views
I've never heard of that in my life. LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:29:37 PM 549 Views
I pronounce it both ways Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:35:45 PM 543 Views
It's like "a". LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:45:14 PM 640 Views
Oh. I do that too. Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:59:20 PM 559 Views
"all intenstive purposes"...*shudder* LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:45:35 PM 510 Views
Yeah, that makes me shudder, too. People are retarded. *NM* LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:50:41 PM 288 Views
I have never actually heard anyone say "all intensive purposes". MightyYT - 23/03/2010 05:25:37 PM 520 Views
Or you could be surrounded by smarter people than I am. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:26:44 PM 197 Views
Really? I'd say most people say it incorrectly and most don't even know... everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:35:49 PM 508 Views
I do too damookster - 24/03/2010 04:07:56 AM 434 Views
Or irregardless. *shudders* I saw it in the dictionary but really... globug0822 - 26/03/2010 12:03:13 PM 467 Views
You should a a few words Floffe - 26/03/2010 12:42:36 PM 449 Views
What Joe said, almost. Palatine - 23/03/2010 04:51:08 PM 720 Views
Seems to me that only works if you pronounce "history" without the H. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:02:29 PM 354 Views
That's my point. I've never heard anyone say it without the "h." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:55:35 PM 292 Views
An history Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:07:08 PM 667 Views
(h)erb. *NM* everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:37:58 PM 285 Views
I will not use "an." Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:59:00 PM 461 Views
Never heard that one snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:09:40 PM 473 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:13:17 PM 594 Views
I wasn't using it as that snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:19:43 PM 465 Views
OK. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:25:22 PM 508 Views
It's enough of a rule. Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:02:46 PM 490 Views
Re: Never heard that one ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:14:21 PM 624 Views
I speak mid-west English and have never said an history or ever heard anyone else use it. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:38:53 PM 568 Views
I've heard it spoken that way several times--on TV/radio by someone trying to be "serious." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:05:48 PM 297 Views
It seems I use them both. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:05:30 PM 479 Views
I also don't post in the correct place, it seems. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:36:59 PM 480 Views
One is sufficient. The Shrike - 23/03/2010 02:30:53 PM 692 Views
Is it possible you do it and don't realize it? Avendesora - 23/03/2010 05:11:28 PM 434 Views
I think I do it in many cases, yeah... Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:19:13 PM 552 Views
That's what we were taught in school as well ironclad - 23/03/2010 02:35:29 PM 526 Views
That's what I thought of, too. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:42:14 PM 530 Views
Re: Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? lyringlas - 23/03/2010 02:46:41 PM 660 Views
As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:49:09 PM 572 Views
Re: As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. lyringlas - 23/03/2010 06:09:27 PM 455 Views
"Should've" versus "should of" Bored - 23/03/2010 06:46:37 PM 528 Views
Sounds like we're on thee same page. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:58:21 PM 603 Views
I tend to use both Isaac - 23/03/2010 10:06:01 PM 524 Views
I think that there are people who pronounce The with that convention LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:47:59 PM 544 Views
Unfortunately you chose two very bad examples. Tim - 23/03/2010 02:48:42 PM 745 Views
British English is weird oO LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:59:49 PM 555 Views
I don't. Tim - 23/03/2010 03:04:22 PM 558 Views
Right Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 03:10:08 PM 538 Views
duly noted LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:10:16 PM 512 Views
I do! Liam - 23/03/2010 10:57:48 PM 532 Views
Shut up, Frenchie! LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 11:03:21 PM 491 Views
Hehe ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:06:31 PM 471 Views
"Park Life!" *NM* Tim - 23/03/2010 03:09:24 PM 200 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:10:35 PM 235 Views
Heh, thanks for bringing this up. *NM* Avendesora - 23/03/2010 04:37:07 PM 259 Views
That was my immediate reaction to this post! *NM* Tom - 23/03/2010 05:21:16 PM 325 Views
"y" is a consonant? or the "u" sound Aeryn - 23/03/2010 09:02:57 PM 664 Views
Hopefully this will explain. Tim - 23/03/2010 11:29:58 PM 581 Views
Re: Hopefully this will explain. Aeryn - 25/03/2010 08:40:21 PM 724 Views
I've only just discovered I do it. Liam - 23/03/2010 11:02:18 PM 455 Views
AH! globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:48:35 AM 449 Views
Whatever the nativespeakers say Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:01:16 PM 512 Views
Do you mean "consistent"? If not, I can't work out what you mean by "consequent". Tim - 23/03/2010 05:05:38 PM 475 Views
I can testify that that one is a terribly annoying false friend in Dutch. And apparently in Swedish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:10:03 PM 614 Views
What do people confuse "eventual" with? "Eventful"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:12:02 PM 483 Views
You never realize even the most obvious of these things in your own language. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:16:35 PM 542 Views
"Gift" has amused me ever since I started learning German. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:39:48 PM 423 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:45:48 PM 253 Views
Oh, it must be an incredibly important word to know when visiting Europe. Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:12:19 PM 532 Views
Even so. Joel - 23/03/2010 08:29:52 PM 531 Views
I wasnt invited! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:04:16 PM 524 Views
You were so. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:05:58 PM 456 Views
No, I better finish my stupid essay! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:08:06 PM 519 Views
I can't imagine a world where that could possibly be as rewarding or invigorating as my company. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:11:49 PM 465 Views
Nah, it's not about EFL, it's about Dutch-English false friends. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:17:28 PM 652 Views
Wait! The English eventual doesnt mean that? Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:21:19 PM 504 Views
English "eventual" means something like "in the end". Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:23:33 PM 495 Views
Whoops! Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:26:05 PM 516 Views
I think the English "eventual" applies to something that is more certain (or assumed) in the future Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:25:39 PM 440 Views
LOL what is it with you today?? *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:57:33 PM 268 Views
You mean that I'm usually brighter? Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:13:04 PM 517 Views
How would you translate eventueel into English? "Potential"? "The possibility of"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:23:58 PM 592 Views
I think I'd ditch the adjective and switch the sentence around to a different construction. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:33:19 PM 619 Views
Do you only use it for future? Or all possible things that may or may not be? Camilla - 23/03/2010 10:27:16 PM 517 Views
Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:07:51 PM 471 Views
Re: Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:09:54 PM 583 Views
*nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:12:37 PM 491 Views
Re: *nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:22:52 PM 442 Views
Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:28:01 PM 524 Views
tim might be able to answer that better than me, as he probably understands what you are referringto Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:33:07 PM 450 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:39:37 PM 545 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:42:29 PM 860 Views
Nah, I know, that's why I said "eventuell" was a bad example - it makes no sense as a predicate. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 PM 593 Views
I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Tim - 24/03/2010 09:27:28 AM 428 Views
Re: I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Camilla - 25/03/2010 12:15:14 PM 554 Views
Ah, that's the right word, yes. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:10:19 PM 477 Views
konsekvent Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:22:26 PM 497 Views
We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 06:27:23 PM 350 Views
Re: We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:28:47 PM 598 Views
This is an excellent point. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:42 PM 404 Views
*clears throat* *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:58:21 PM 239 Views
Okay, we'll let Austrian join too. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:00:26 PM 407 Views
Why dilute a perfectly good language with norwegian, dutch and austrian? *NM* jh - 23/03/2010 08:12:40 PM 301 Views
Cool! I'm in! Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:16:32 PM 506 Views
I've no doubt its grammar is awesome... making more sense, that sounds rather less likely. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:10 PM 306 Views
Don't listen to her ironclad - 23/03/2010 08:24:06 PM 469 Views
Hmpf! Böse Kartoffel! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:05:37 PM 533 Views
Like Esperanto but with germanic roots? Me likey! *NM* Floffe - 24/03/2010 04:43:59 PM 267 Views
Nopes. nossy - 23/03/2010 05:03:18 PM 496 Views
In my dialect, it's more or less like that Larry - 23/03/2010 05:35:31 PM 422 Views
I don't, but I'm American, and apparently that makes the difference. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:55:10 PM 547 Views
Try it with a bunch of words starting with vowels, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:59:03 PM 463 Views
"thuh" for the first two, seems like "thee" for the rest. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:08:14 PM 565 Views
The (thuh) for all of them. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:53:16 PM 489 Views
Thee for all of them *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:54:58 PM 302 Views
Me too. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:59:16 PM 264 Views
Thee for all! o/ Avendesora - 24/03/2010 08:37:23 PM 533 Views
I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:05:53 PM 454 Views
Re: I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:26:30 PM 626 Views
Just go with instinct Rebekah - 23/03/2010 06:29:52 PM 496 Views
Quit while you're behind... Tom - 23/03/2010 08:58:26 PM 516 Views
Unless you like to use archaic English, that is Larry - 23/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 493 Views
I somehow doubt that Lordling - 25/03/2010 08:09:44 PM 624 Views
I like it Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:23:06 PM 510 Views
You sound like him Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:32:09 PM 534 Views
Re: You sound like him Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:33:03 PM 574 Views
Oh!!! That's just the kind of teacher I'm going to be! *NM* Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:06:26 PM 430 Views
Haha good stuff *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:24:37 PM 270 Views
Never heard of that before. *NM* Wibble - 23/03/2010 08:18:48 PM 191 Views
I do it AgentOrange - 23/03/2010 09:32:04 PM 447 Views
Same here. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:33:51 PM 293 Views
Thuh is what most people I know use although I find that more educated people use thee at times. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:58:57 PM 484 Views
I have never heard that before in my life. globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:46:44 AM 587 Views
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