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I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Tim Send a noteboard - 24/03/2010 09:27:28 AM
For now, I shall merely say that the thing Camilla said was nothing to do with gender is everything to do with gender. Gender and sex are not the same thing. If you don't believe me, ask a speaker of Swahili, which has eight genders of which one includes people of both sexes.

Norwegian adjectival endings are as follows:

"Strong" form:

Used for adjectives in indefinite noun phrases ("a big thing") and predicates ("the thing is big")

Masc/fem sg: -0 <- that's a zero, not an O. It means "no ending".
Neut sg: -t (this also makes adverbs)
M/F/N pl: -e

"Weak" form:

Used for adjectives in definite noun phrases ("the big thing")

All forms: -e
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.

—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.

—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
This message last edited by Tim on 24/03/2010 at 09:29:05 AM
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Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? Lordling - 23/03/2010 02:06:02 PM 1425 Views
Need? No. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 02:17:09 PM 596 Views
I've never heard of that in my life. LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:29:37 PM 691 Views
I pronounce it both ways Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:35:45 PM 688 Views
It's like "a". LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:45:14 PM 765 Views
Oh. I do that too. Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:59:20 PM 699 Views
"all intenstive purposes"...*shudder* LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:45:35 PM 665 Views
Yeah, that makes me shudder, too. People are retarded. *NM* LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:50:41 PM 358 Views
I have never actually heard anyone say "all intensive purposes". MightyYT - 23/03/2010 05:25:37 PM 656 Views
Or you could be surrounded by smarter people than I am. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:26:44 PM 261 Views
Really? I'd say most people say it incorrectly and most don't even know... everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:35:49 PM 668 Views
I do too damookster - 24/03/2010 04:07:56 AM 568 Views
Or irregardless. *shudders* I saw it in the dictionary but really... globug0822 - 26/03/2010 12:03:13 PM 613 Views
You should a a few words Floffe - 26/03/2010 12:42:36 PM 621 Views
What Joe said, almost. Palatine - 23/03/2010 04:51:08 PM 859 Views
Seems to me that only works if you pronounce "history" without the H. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:02:29 PM 416 Views
That's my point. I've never heard anyone say it without the "h." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:55:35 PM 360 Views
An history Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:07:08 PM 826 Views
(h)erb. *NM* everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:37:58 PM 345 Views
I will not use "an." Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:59:00 PM 602 Views
Never heard that one snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:09:40 PM 636 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:13:17 PM 770 Views
I wasn't using it as that snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:19:43 PM 595 Views
OK. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:25:22 PM 662 Views
It's enough of a rule. Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:02:46 PM 640 Views
Re: Never heard that one ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:14:21 PM 768 Views
I speak mid-west English and have never said an history or ever heard anyone else use it. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:38:53 PM 720 Views
I've heard it spoken that way several times--on TV/radio by someone trying to be "serious." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:05:48 PM 358 Views
It seems I use them both. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:05:30 PM 606 Views
I also don't post in the correct place, it seems. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:36:59 PM 627 Views
One is sufficient. The Shrike - 23/03/2010 02:30:53 PM 826 Views
Is it possible you do it and don't realize it? Avendesora - 23/03/2010 05:11:28 PM 557 Views
I think I do it in many cases, yeah... Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:19:13 PM 697 Views
That's what we were taught in school as well ironclad - 23/03/2010 02:35:29 PM 669 Views
That's what I thought of, too. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:42:14 PM 672 Views
Re: Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? lyringlas - 23/03/2010 02:46:41 PM 784 Views
As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:49:09 PM 702 Views
Re: As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. lyringlas - 23/03/2010 06:09:27 PM 572 Views
"Should've" versus "should of" Bored - 23/03/2010 06:46:37 PM 679 Views
Sounds like we're on thee same page. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:58:21 PM 734 Views
I tend to use both Isaac - 23/03/2010 10:06:01 PM 662 Views
I think that there are people who pronounce The with that convention LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:47:59 PM 703 Views
Unfortunately you chose two very bad examples. Tim - 23/03/2010 02:48:42 PM 900 Views
British English is weird oO LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:59:49 PM 692 Views
I don't. Tim - 23/03/2010 03:04:22 PM 696 Views
Right Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 03:10:08 PM 660 Views
duly noted LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:10:16 PM 642 Views
I do! Liam - 23/03/2010 10:57:48 PM 662 Views
Shut up, Frenchie! LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 11:03:21 PM 637 Views
Hehe ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:06:31 PM 620 Views
"Park Life!" *NM* Tim - 23/03/2010 03:09:24 PM 265 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:10:35 PM 321 Views
Heh, thanks for bringing this up. *NM* Avendesora - 23/03/2010 04:37:07 PM 336 Views
That was my immediate reaction to this post! *NM* Tom - 23/03/2010 05:21:16 PM 388 Views
"y" is a consonant? or the "u" sound Aeryn - 23/03/2010 09:02:57 PM 801 Views
Hopefully this will explain. Tim - 23/03/2010 11:29:58 PM 719 Views
Re: Hopefully this will explain. Aeryn - 25/03/2010 08:40:21 PM 888 Views
I've only just discovered I do it. Liam - 23/03/2010 11:02:18 PM 603 Views
AH! globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:48:35 AM 575 Views
Whatever the nativespeakers say Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:01:16 PM 658 Views
Do you mean "consistent"? If not, I can't work out what you mean by "consequent". Tim - 23/03/2010 05:05:38 PM 599 Views
I can testify that that one is a terribly annoying false friend in Dutch. And apparently in Swedish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:10:03 PM 757 Views
What do people confuse "eventual" with? "Eventful"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:12:02 PM 621 Views
You never realize even the most obvious of these things in your own language. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:16:35 PM 675 Views
"Gift" has amused me ever since I started learning German. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:39:48 PM 565 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:45:48 PM 312 Views
Oh, it must be an incredibly important word to know when visiting Europe. Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:12:19 PM 673 Views
Even so. Joel - 23/03/2010 08:29:52 PM 680 Views
I wasnt invited! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:04:16 PM 655 Views
You were so. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:05:58 PM 613 Views
No, I better finish my stupid essay! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:08:06 PM 680 Views
I can't imagine a world where that could possibly be as rewarding or invigorating as my company. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:11:49 PM 616 Views
Nah, it's not about EFL, it's about Dutch-English false friends. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:17:28 PM 785 Views
Wait! The English eventual doesnt mean that? Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:21:19 PM 632 Views
English "eventual" means something like "in the end". Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:23:33 PM 629 Views
Whoops! Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:26:05 PM 691 Views
I think the English "eventual" applies to something that is more certain (or assumed) in the future Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:25:39 PM 588 Views
LOL what is it with you today?? *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:57:33 PM 340 Views
You mean that I'm usually brighter? Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:13:04 PM 669 Views
How would you translate eventueel into English? "Potential"? "The possibility of"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:23:58 PM 729 Views
I think I'd ditch the adjective and switch the sentence around to a different construction. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:33:19 PM 798 Views
Do you only use it for future? Or all possible things that may or may not be? Camilla - 23/03/2010 10:27:16 PM 661 Views
Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:07:51 PM 608 Views
Re: Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:09:54 PM 712 Views
*nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:12:37 PM 646 Views
Re: *nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:22:52 PM 581 Views
Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:28:01 PM 656 Views
tim might be able to answer that better than me, as he probably understands what you are referringto Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:33:07 PM 593 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:39:37 PM 678 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:42:29 PM 1025 Views
Nah, I know, that's why I said "eventuell" was a bad example - it makes no sense as a predicate. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 PM 734 Views
I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Tim - 24/03/2010 09:27:28 AM 568 Views
Re: I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Camilla - 25/03/2010 12:15:14 PM 678 Views
Ah, that's the right word, yes. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:10:19 PM 630 Views
konsekvent Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:22:26 PM 631 Views
We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 06:27:23 PM 415 Views
Re: We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:28:47 PM 746 Views
This is an excellent point. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:42 PM 532 Views
*clears throat* *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:58:21 PM 319 Views
Okay, we'll let Austrian join too. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:00:26 PM 548 Views
Why dilute a perfectly good language with norwegian, dutch and austrian? *NM* jh - 23/03/2010 08:12:40 PM 374 Views
Cool! I'm in! Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:16:32 PM 640 Views
I've no doubt its grammar is awesome... making more sense, that sounds rather less likely. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:10 PM 366 Views
Don't listen to her ironclad - 23/03/2010 08:24:06 PM 596 Views
Hmpf! Böse Kartoffel! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:05:37 PM 695 Views
Like Esperanto but with germanic roots? Me likey! *NM* Floffe - 24/03/2010 04:43:59 PM 357 Views
Nopes. nossy - 23/03/2010 05:03:18 PM 628 Views
In my dialect, it's more or less like that Larry - 23/03/2010 05:35:31 PM 552 Views
I don't, but I'm American, and apparently that makes the difference. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:55:10 PM 693 Views
Try it with a bunch of words starting with vowels, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:59:03 PM 596 Views
"thuh" for the first two, seems like "thee" for the rest. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:08:14 PM 698 Views
The (thuh) for all of them. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:53:16 PM 638 Views
Thee for all of them *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:54:58 PM 360 Views
Me too. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:59:16 PM 332 Views
Thee for all! o/ Avendesora - 24/03/2010 08:37:23 PM 676 Views
I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:05:53 PM 614 Views
Re: I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:26:30 PM 800 Views
Just go with instinct Rebekah - 23/03/2010 06:29:52 PM 634 Views
Quit while you're behind... Tom - 23/03/2010 08:58:26 PM 648 Views
Unless you like to use archaic English, that is Larry - 23/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 627 Views
I somehow doubt that Lordling - 25/03/2010 08:09:44 PM 774 Views
I like it Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:23:06 PM 639 Views
You sound like him Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:32:09 PM 669 Views
Re: You sound like him Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:33:03 PM 708 Views
Oh!!! That's just the kind of teacher I'm going to be! *NM* Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:06:26 PM 491 Views
Haha good stuff *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:24:37 PM 337 Views
Never heard of that before. *NM* Wibble - 23/03/2010 08:18:48 PM 249 Views
I do it AgentOrange - 23/03/2010 09:32:04 PM 579 Views
Same here. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:33:51 PM 358 Views
Thuh is what most people I know use although I find that more educated people use thee at times. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:58:57 PM 635 Views
I have never heard that before in my life. globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:46:44 AM 794 Views
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