So I just realized I sparked a bit of a controversy here...
I should check this board more often.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 25/01/2011 10:28:34 PM
I should check this board more often.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 25/01/2011 10:28:34 PM
Of course you're right that video games should have interactive stories, that are influenced by the decisions you make while playing it, which is an entirely different thing from a plot in a book. But surely it becomes easier to make a good story for a video game if you've got the world-building and three-dimensional characters already fleshed out for you, and they're already good. Okay, it also has its downsides as you may not be as free in the twists you can create as you would be if you'd started from zero, but I would think the advantages outweigh the downsides.
I haven't played the Witcher, nor read the books, but I do have a basic idea of what the game and the books are about, and it is my understanding that the books and the game both are notable for their three-dimensional characters and refusal to buy into simple concepts of good vs. evil. And those, plus of course the general plot lines of the books, and perhaps some descriptions or pieces of dialogue here and there, seem like a lot of useful elements for game writers to work with. They still have to write a good game plot themselves, but seems to me it should be easier, and one should be allowed to have higher expectations, when the game writers are given all of those elements beforehand, allowing them to focus their creativity purely on how to turn those elements into an engaging interactive game plot. In the case of extremely famous books like LotR, I admit that this might actually hamper the game writers' creativity as they don't dare to deviate from the plot too much, but Sapkowski's books are hardly that famous that the game writers need to worry about deviating from the plot when that's necessary to make an engaging game.
I haven't played the Witcher, nor read the books, but I do have a basic idea of what the game and the books are about, and it is my understanding that the books and the game both are notable for their three-dimensional characters and refusal to buy into simple concepts of good vs. evil. And those, plus of course the general plot lines of the books, and perhaps some descriptions or pieces of dialogue here and there, seem like a lot of useful elements for game writers to work with. They still have to write a good game plot themselves, but seems to me it should be easier, and one should be allowed to have higher expectations, when the game writers are given all of those elements beforehand, allowing them to focus their creativity purely on how to turn those elements into an engaging interactive game plot. In the case of extremely famous books like LotR, I admit that this might actually hamper the game writers' creativity as they don't dare to deviate from the plot too much, but Sapkowski's books are hardly that famous that the game writers need to worry about deviating from the plot when that's necessary to make an engaging game.
I need a good RPG.
- 13/01/2011 06:49:32 PM
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The Witcher
- 13/01/2011 07:13:50 PM
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Hm. I have it as a project to improve my French, but I found the gameplay pretty boring.
- 14/01/2011 05:38:15 AM
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If you find The Witcher boring, you'll likely feel the same about Baldur's Gate 2, IWD, etc.
- 14/01/2011 03:07:12 PM
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All right. I'll give it a shot, then. Thanks. *NM*
- 14/01/2011 08:17:17 PM
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Make sure you get the enhanced edition, or whatever it's called.
- 14/01/2011 09:56:56 PM
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It's funny, that, because it's based on a critically acclaimed book series.
- 15/01/2011 01:13:39 PM
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I've heard that, yeah. I just don't think enough of it made it into the game. (minor spoilers)
- 15/01/2011 08:12:34 PM
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The thing is, what works in a book doesn't necessarily work in a game.
- 18/01/2011 06:15:10 PM
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Wow, I guess you touched a nerve, Legolas. New pet peeve discovered! *NM*
- 18/01/2011 06:22:37 PM
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I don't have time to do this justice, but I'll make a brief comment.
- 18/01/2011 09:30:20 PM
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Did you read his post?
- 18/01/2011 09:59:21 PM
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Yeah, that was one of the things I didn't have time to respond to.
- 18/01/2011 10:31:46 PM
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- 18/01/2011 10:31:46 PM
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Re: Yeah, that was one of the things I didn't have time to respond to.
- 18/01/2011 10:43:20 PM
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- 18/01/2011 10:43:20 PM
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So I just realized I sparked a bit of a controversy here...
I should check this board more often.
- 25/01/2011 10:28:34 PM
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I should check this board more often.
- 25/01/2011 10:28:34 PM
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Do yourself a favor...
- 13/01/2011 10:39:41 PM
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Everything is the opposite of Morrowind, though.
- 14/01/2011 05:37:42 AM
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- 14/01/2011 05:37:42 AM
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Just go ahead and shoot yourself now
- 14/01/2011 07:51:06 PM
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- 14/01/2011 07:51:06 PM
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...you were so right. Fable is an MMORPG without the other people.
- 15/01/2011 06:35:46 AM
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- 15/01/2011 06:35:46 AM
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...dislikes...Fallout...3....*dies* *NM*
- 13/01/2011 11:34:10 PM
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It was boring. Really, really boring.
- 14/01/2011 05:36:41 AM
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I'm with you, brother!
- 14/01/2011 05:51:41 AM
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awwww...I loved Fallout 3
- 14/01/2011 03:37:51 PM
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- 14/01/2011 03:37:51 PM
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No...
- 14/01/2011 03:47:22 PM
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It's minecraft with guns. *NM*
- 14/01/2011 08:16:23 PM
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And without a destructible environment.
- 14/01/2011 08:16:52 PM
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"It's minecraft with guns." Ouch. Come on. Fallout3 was better than that. *NM*
- 19/01/2011 04:09:30 AM
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Coming from me, actually, that's higher praise than it deserves.
- 19/01/2011 06:54:57 AM
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- 19/01/2011 06:54:57 AM
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I got it for like $25, I'd say that's about what Fallout 3 is worth
- 19/01/2011 05:09:34 PM
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You got Fallout 3 or New Vegas for $25
- 19/01/2011 06:12:26 PM
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Wait. You haven't played it yet?
- 20/01/2011 03:46:17 AM
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Well said
- 20/01/2011 08:43:25 AM
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Played Fallout 3, but not NV.
- 20/01/2011 06:22:33 PM
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I'm sure I'll be trying that new
- 21/01/2011 02:04:47 PM
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Don't play Mass Effect 2 without playing Mass Effect 1. It's a much worse game.
- 21/01/2011 06:43:16 PM
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Yes, play ME1 first... but opinions vary about ME2. It did the most important things better, IMO.
- 21/01/2011 11:57:26 PM
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That's true if gameplay is more important to you than story.
- 22/01/2011 06:50:32 AM
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ME1 wasn't even going to release on the PC initially, so I think we could be worse off.
- 22/01/2011 03:27:05 PM
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If you want a GREAT story, I would go for...
- 14/01/2011 08:04:15 AM
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I second the idea of Borderlands if you like loot-generating/diabloesque RPGs w/ others.
- 14/01/2011 03:09:29 PM
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I'm surprised you liked Oblivion.
- 15/01/2011 12:47:24 AM
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I liked Oblivion because it was the sequel to Morrowind.
- 15/01/2011 01:31:51 AM
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Do you know about "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"? It will be released Nov 2011 *NM*
- 15/01/2011 04:52:13 AM
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Final Fantasy 8.
- 18/01/2011 09:10:51 AM
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That was the first FF I quit before even finishing, and consequently the last I played in the series
- 18/01/2011 03:23:40 PM
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I wouldn't even call JRPGs and Western RPGs the same genre, really. *NM*
- 19/01/2011 02:45:17 PM
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Like SVU and NCIS are both crime dramas, stylistic differences can remain under one genre umbrella.
- 19/01/2011 03:11:41 PM
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If you're going the Final Fantasy route, I'd recommend Final Fantasy Tactics. *NM*
- 20/01/2011 06:36:02 PM
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- 21/01/2011 02:14:41 PM
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- 21/01/2011 02:14:41 PM
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Go SNES! FF6, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound...
- 19/01/2011 07:42:23 PM
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I can agree to that.
- 19/01/2011 08:03:59 PM
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What do you think of Strategy RPGs? *NM*
- 20/01/2011 03:59:52 PM
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