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Out of curiosity, did you ever play Morrowind? Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2011 08:44:06 AM
Because it's somewhat notorious amongst WRPGs for having a blood-weepingly hard difficulty, as well as non-scaling enemies. Meaning you can grind to your hearts satisfaction and wreak absolute havoc on everything.

Also, you can kill everyone, if you want. The game tells you you've doomed the world and that now would be a good time to reload the game, and you can tell the game to go bugger off and that you wish to "persist in the doomed world that you have created," to put it in Bethesda's language. :P


Heck, let's talk points in general while we're at it. I guarantee you I could beat either of the Mass Effect games on the hardest difficulty without ever assigning a skill point, and without the game being much harder at all. I could do that in the majority of Western RPGs I can think of, actually, with varying degrees of trouble.


While I am sure it is possible to do so, I assure you that it would be much more difficult than you are proposing here. I speak from experience on this matter, having tried to use a sniper rifle with my Adept Shepard in ME1. Theoretically, I could defeat most jrpgs without leveling up, either; they're based on probability, so it's technically possible given an inane amount of time.

In ME2 you admittedly could probably do this with ease, but ME2 was not a very well-constructed game. :P


Also, I would like to point out that the issue I'm seeing with the conversation you two are having is that lord-of-shadow is a narrativist (roleplaying as being the character, telling a story), while you're very, very much a gamist (stats stats stats). I refer you to my link; if nothing else, it might shine some light on various perspectives of gaming.
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Is it silly of me to keep holding out hope that there will be a KotOR 3? Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 04:24:55 PM 1032 Views
With The Old Republic, I wouldn't expect it. Zalis - 09/02/2011 05:49:20 PM 842 Views
Nope. Not any time soon, at least. lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 06:27:06 PM 930 Views
Thanks for that. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 06:40:23 PM 786 Views
I have no answers, but on the subject ... Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 06:28:35 PM 847 Views
It is literally amazing. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 06:43:14 PM 800 Views
It's about as good as a western-style RPG has ever been. Also: best plot twist of all time. lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 07:12:59 PM 829 Views
But Katie, don't go looking up the plot twist before you decide to play it. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 07:41:57 PM 836 Views
Thanks for the warning. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 08:50:17 PM 879 Views
Oh? What's the difference? Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 08:51:33 PM 855 Views
Ok, I may have exaggerated a little bit... lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 09:36:21 PM 828 Views
Ah, I see. Thanks! *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2011 01:50:50 PM 418 Views
Re: Ok, I may have exaggerated a little bit... Aemon - 10/02/2011 03:47:08 PM 810 Views
I LOL'd a bit. Zalis - 10/02/2011 04:08:12 PM 949 Views
Re: I LOL'd a bit. Aemon - 10/02/2011 09:46:22 PM 778 Views
Interesting viewpoint. lord-of-shadow - 10/02/2011 10:45:25 PM 932 Views
Yeah, I thought about most of your complaints while writing that post. Aemon - 11/02/2011 02:42:16 AM 849 Views
All fair enough. And I even agree with you. lord-of-shadow - 11/02/2011 04:24:21 AM 763 Views
Re: All fair enough. And I even agree with you. Aemon - 11/02/2011 08:27:04 AM 883 Views
Out of curiosity, did you ever play Morrowind? Ghavrel - 11/02/2011 08:44:06 AM 885 Views
I played roughly halfway through. I quit when I realized how broken that game was. Aemon - 11/02/2011 05:57:04 PM 812 Views
I love a good story but abhor collections/accomplishments/completionist stuff. Zalis - 11/02/2011 07:53:48 PM 792 Views
That they do. Aemon - 11/02/2011 10:50:02 PM 748 Views
Out of curiosity, what's you're opinion on the Neverwinter Nights games? *NM* Macharius - 11/02/2011 08:18:38 PM 437 Views
I've actually never played them. Aemon - 11/02/2011 10:46:11 PM 728 Views
That was always my impression as well. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 11/02/2011 11:46:32 PM 414 Views
That article is one of the most opaque pieces of text I've ever read. Dan - 12/02/2011 02:00:03 PM 899 Views
I seriously doubt that. Ghavrel - 12/02/2011 08:28:44 PM 767 Views
Shortly put, western RPGs are better. Bergioyn - 09/02/2011 10:15:42 PM 848 Views
I don't know..... AliasRY - 10/02/2011 08:19:28 PM 805 Views
Ok......... AliasRY - 10/02/2011 08:20:37 PM 817 Views
? *NM* Bergioyn - 10/02/2011 10:04:48 PM 414 Views
It's very good- highly recommend it beetnemesis - 09/02/2011 08:48:13 PM 765 Views
Recommended. Bergioyn - 09/02/2011 10:12:08 PM 801 Views
Agreed Sir Tybalt - 12/02/2011 12:29:30 AM 800 Views
Since you could probably get it for five dollars, worth trying. TaskmasterJack - 09/02/2011 10:44:17 PM 775 Views
Same. I've always found it sort of meh. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:41:19 PM 401 Views
It has the same chance in hell as a sequel to the Chrono series *NM* Roland00 - 11/02/2011 02:32:41 AM 369 Views
now you made me sad, i'm going to go play chrono trigger on my psx now *NM* Apsalar Shadowdancer - 19/02/2011 04:21:04 AM 488 Views
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