so does every game, honestly. LIFE is level grinding.
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				And I'm not saying all of them were side stories, but there were side stories.  They weren't LONG by any means, but they were there.  And yah. Mages are squishy. They're ALWAYS SQUISHY. That's kind of the idea.  They're generally a rougher class to play than a warrior, which is ideal for those who like to faceroll their fighting.
BG was very true to real RPGs. You don't always go off on an epic quest the whole time. Sometimes you need extra gold so you go do something else. Sometimes you're not ready to kill the dragon.
Of course things like "level grinding" and "fetch/carry/kill" side quests are present. It's an RPG. It's the nature of the beast. What else WILL a mercenary be doing, pray tell? That's what an adventurer is, really. An explorer and a mercenary. It's not like people are going to ask you to fix them gourmet meals for gold. What do you really expect to be asked to do?
As far as the main plot goes, I've played through it relatively quickly and ignored the side quests before. It's very difficult to do the later-ends of the plot line if you don't side quest, yes. But again, that's the nature of the beast. If you want to glide through every stage of a game without needing to spend some extra time, get an fps.
	BG was very true to real RPGs. You don't always go off on an epic quest the whole time. Sometimes you need extra gold so you go do something else. Sometimes you're not ready to kill the dragon.
Of course things like "level grinding" and "fetch/carry/kill" side quests are present. It's an RPG. It's the nature of the beast. What else WILL a mercenary be doing, pray tell? That's what an adventurer is, really. An explorer and a mercenary. It's not like people are going to ask you to fix them gourmet meals for gold. What do you really expect to be asked to do?
As far as the main plot goes, I've played through it relatively quickly and ignored the side quests before. It's very difficult to do the later-ends of the plot line if you don't side quest, yes. But again, that's the nature of the beast. If you want to glide through every stage of a game without needing to spend some extra time, get an fps.
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			So I gotta know if this is happening to anyone else...
	    
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			you must gather your party before venturing forth
	    
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			oh god....I hope that narrator makes lots of money. He DESERVES it
	    
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			This behaviour must not continue. Feel the burning stare of my HAMSTER and change your ways!
	    
	         - 30/04/2011 11:43:38 PM
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			the best.  Particularly since follow-ups having come CLOSE :rollups:
	    
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			To me, yes, but then I'm currently playing it, so not as odd.  - 01/05/2011 12:25:17 AM
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			live by the sword live a good long time!
	    
	         - 01/05/2011 01:30:21 AM
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			I've never played the first one - sounds like there are some good lines there too. *NM*
	    
	         - 01/05/2011 09:44:48 PM
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			...how could you play the follow-ups without playing the first one?
	    
	         - 02/05/2011 01:18:12 AM
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			I never played BG1 and still REALLY enjoyed BG2. The story seemed a clean enough break to "get it."
	    
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			Yeah, exactly... I don't really feel the loss.
	    
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			to put it simply, you're wrong about the gameplay.
	    
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			It might clarify things a bit if I say I've never played tabletop RPGs.
	    
	         - 03/05/2011 10:21:34 PM
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			Baldur's Gate requires level grinding though.
	    
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			you don't grind
	    
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			Depends on your perspective I guess.
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 06:49:52 PM
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			so does every game, honestly. LIFE is level grinding.
		
	         - 04/05/2011 10:15:26 AM
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			That's not true, and you know it's not true - you've talked about playing games that don't have it
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 01:18:51 PM
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			No. Specifically, I was commenting on Baldur's Gate compared to Shadows of Amn.
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 07:04:55 PM
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			I wasn't aware you were specifically comaring BG to SoA.
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 07:43:32 PM
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			Ah, sorry then. Yes, it was in reply to the improvements of BG2 to BG1.
	    
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			Re: Ah, sorry then. Yes, it was in reply to the improvements of BG2 to BG1.
	    
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			Re: Ah, sorry then. Yes, it was in reply to the improvements of BG2 to BG1.
	    
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			Re: Ah, sorry then. Yes, it was in reply to the improvements of BG2 to BG1.
	    
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			I do have the impression that SoA (and certainly ToB) swings a bit the other way regarding mages.
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 09:40:12 PM
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			Yes. It's not the fault of the games though, they're using D&D rules, so it comes with the territory
	    
	         - 05/05/2011 12:25:21 AM
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			Diablo 1 is vastly superior to Diablo 2. Just saying.  *NM*
	    
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			As I said I haven't  played the former, but I really rather doubt it.  *NM*
	    
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			Diablo 1 wins in the story and atmosphere department.
	    
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			If you thought they both had a terrible gameplay...
	    
	         - 04/05/2011 09:41:46 PM
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			Because they're addicting and I'm exaggerating. I have completed both.
	    
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