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Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM
The epic-ness of the melodramatic Final Fantasy soap opera, that is. They've made ten games like that, and it's made their series one of the best selling of all time. Fans enjoyed it. *I* enjoyed it. I understand that someone who didn't would be pleased to see the formula change, but really, I don't think it's a good idea for them to do so. Not radically, anyway. Growth and maturation aren't things to strive for in and of themselves; a game is not better simply because it grows up. It'll reach a different audience, sure, but not necessarily a wider one by any means.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, while I'm glad you liked Final Fantasy XII, you did so because it's a different kind of game. You liked it because it lacked most of what has defined Final Fantasy for the past couple decades, in the eyes of its fans. That identity is one of the most valuable things in video games these days, and I think it'd be a huge mistake for Squeenix to leave it behind.

And it looks like they agree, from everything I've heard. XIII is being made by a much more traditional FF team, and seems to be returning the series to its roots, in a lot of ways. With any luck at all, XII will go down in history as a lackluster exception-to-the-rule for most of us, and a classic diamond-in-the-rough to a select few. ;)

I'm not saying political intrigue can't work in games, I liked games like Vandal Hearts and Ogre Tactics which start off with lots of political intrigue, but, I really like the RPGs the most that have the crazy fantastical stuff.


Also, watching my roommate play FFXII was painful. The gameplay just looked slow and boring as crap, my roommate looked extremely bored, and most of the artwork for the overworld maps I saw looked sad and kind of blanched. But that's beside the original point.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 1089 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 1061 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 446 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 969 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 876 Views
It was still good though - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 760 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 934 Views
I will have to disagree with this... - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 823 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 944 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 880 Views
I agree, with caveat. - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 979 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 901 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 432 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 464 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 465 Views
Say what? - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 820 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 844 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 806 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 897 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 838 Views
Anything of worth? - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 822 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 818 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 936 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 837 Views
That's basically what I meant. - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 803 Views
Yeah I understand. - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 907 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 845 Views
I suppose it is, at that. - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 893 Views
Well said. - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 848 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 830 Views
I agree. *NM* - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 540 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 821 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 907 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 873 Views
It's interesting.... - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 891 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 844 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 960 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 917 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 429 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 1113 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 901 Views
I agree with this. - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 892 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 848 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 464 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 845 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 916 Views
So much confusion everywhere! - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 925 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 920 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 1119 Views

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