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It's always about us, then, isn't it? - Edit 1

Before modification by Tom at 24/05/2017 02:35:38 AM

Every dipshit and their retarded cousin blames the US for everything. If we aren't actually to blame for everything, like, for example, corruption in Syria, or rampant illiteracy in Egypt, or the fact some douchebag walks into a market in Jordan and blows himself up because he thinks God wants him to kill people for not being pious enough, that's not really our fault.

Power abhors a vacuum. Sure, the US gets involved in shit it has no real business being involved in, but if we don't, other people do. This is very easily shown because when Obama stepped back from making any decisions in the Near East, Russia stepped in, Iran stepped in and Saudi Arabia stepped up. The whole idea that we don't believe in spheres of influence is bullshit. We just got so blinded to being in control that we don't recognize our own spheres of influence anymore.

What I don't like about Obama's foreign policy was his inability to project any sense of leadership or respect. In Libya he was going to "lead from behind" (in common English, that's called "following", by the way) to kill a leader who was not a great guy but who had relinquished nuclear and chemical programs to try to avoid regime change, yet got it anyway. What a terrible message to send to every despot out there - you can't trust us to be loyal when you try to do the right thing. Is it any wonder Kim Jong-fat is wary? In Egypt, he pulled the rug out from under Mubarak and got the Muslim Brotherhood in power before the army finally stepped up and put an end to that farce. In Syria, he said chemical weapons were a "red line" and then did nothing about it, showing himself to be an idle talker whose words meant nothing. In Iraq, he intentionally pulled out our troops just as the country was starting to work under a flimsy pretext (every country pushes back on a Status of Forces agreement and then is told by the US to shut the fuck up; Obama said, instead, "okay, well, I guess we'll leave then" ). Iran came in and so the Gulf States, freaked out, threw material support behind ISIS as the only thing that could stop the Iranians from controlling all of Iraq (and Syria, eventually). Speaking of Iran, Obama did nothing at all when tens of thousands of Iranians were protesting their stolen election. In Afghanistan, he told the Taliban when we were pulling troops out ahead of time, and how many, and otherwise generally fucked up the country.

In other parts of the world Obama showed how useless he was. He tried to scare people in the UK into voting against Brexit, saying the UK would have to "go to the back of the line" on trade agreements (it didn't have to). Then there was the apology tour, of course. Nothing projected weakness quite like it.

I have to admit that on most of these points, I don't think Clinton would have followed Obama's ruinous foreign policy. By all accounts she and Bob Gates twisted Obama's arm to force the bin Laden raid.


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