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I agree with most of this... but still, somehow, it works. Legolas Send a noteboard - 04/02/2019 06:20:43 PM

The director is an arthouse director who doesn't normally do period movies - I haven't seen any of his other movies, but the arthouse background was pretty clear.

But when you look past the oddities with the funny camera angles and the title cards, amid all the obscenity and crudity you do get a pretty interesting take on the unusual power dynamics between a 'favourite' and her/his monarch, I thought. The way Sarah can reign nearly absolute in court and even Parliament, and even gets away with ordering the queen around, until the moment that she pushes it too far and then it's all over in a moment. The manipulations of Abigail and the way she works her way into the queen's good graces in her ultimately successful attempt to displace Sarah - but then before she can aspire to wielding power the same way Sarah did, gets brought down to earth by the queen and reminded of her position, in the closing scene of the movie. The queen's traumas and volatility, being constantly flattered and manipulated into following her favourite's or her ministers' wishes, but still ultimately holding massive power when she dares to exercise it.

You could've done all that in a more conventional and less crude movie as well, no doubt, but not too many conventional period movies are as strong as this one in illustrating this kind of thing.

View original postAnyway, while the film is sort of funny, it's through shock and crudity. Crudity is a huge thing in the movie, and I think it's deliberate. The way it's shot, the way they do costumes & makeup seem intent on de-glamorizing the court and the inner circles of the high nobility. Even the title cards between acts are "printed" in full justified mode, with even margins on both sides, so the words are stretched out with wide spaces between the letters. You can read the epigrams and they're nice and neat, but it's still visually jarring. And that's what the movie seems to be trying to do. The characters, with their fancy British accents are constantly dropping obscenities and vulgarities. Both Abigail & Sarah have sexual relationships with Anne, usually portrayed as manipulative or exploitative. The humor is pretty dark, and it plays up the practices of the early 18th century which are absurd to modern eyes, and playing fast and loose with the historical events. For instance, Harley recruits Abigail to be his agent in the Queen's household to counter Sarah's Whig agenda, and there are any number of conversations between them, with no indication that they were related, and more closely than the referenced relationship between her and Sarah. One of the ironies of that, is the whole subversion thing the film is doing with the setting and class issues, could have been better served in the character department by extending the narrative to include the historical stuff that happened after the film ends.

My understanding is Sarah was Abigail's first cousin on her mother's side, while Harley was her second cousin on her father's side. So the latter isn't actually closer than the former, then?

But yeah, either way, perfect historical accuracy about Queen Anne, Sarah and Abigail clearly isn't the first priority.

View original postIt makes me suspicious that the subversion theme is just an excuse to go for shocks and crude laughs. If that's your thing, the movie is a pretty good bet. Just don't expect Downton Abbey or a comedy of manners.

It's a pretty hard movie to pin down, but it definitely offers a lot more than just shocks and crude laughs.

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