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I... have nothing to argue with here. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 06/08/2020 10:39:49 PM

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Which... I mean, we were all WoT fans, so I have very little sympathy, here. I would totally read an 800-page Dresden book, no questions asked.

Yep.
It actually really annoyed me. The whole thing is setup.

Also, yep. "Here's the Knights...and that's it for the rest of the book. Here's Gray...for the last time in the book. Here's some werewolves, but the two you care the least about, not doing werewolf things, or any indication they are anything but Butters' conquests. Here's Ferrovax & Vaterung, staring at each other. Here's Marcone in one 'scene' near the end. Here's Harry & Molly, finally with more than just catch-up talks since they both became Knight & Lady...and she's more of a plot-convenience genie for Harry."
One thing that bugged me- apparently Harry's going to be attacked politically, get thrown out of the White Council? And they're going to do it by saying he's not really a wizard, due to how he joined, or something?

Wasn't that the exact plot of Summer Knight? Dresden does a favor for the Council to "prove" that he's a wizard, since some people are saying he should be thrown out due to how he joined.


The only thing to say in its defense is that maybe now there is no quick fix, of complete the quest to maintain the status quo, that Harry might really have to be outside the Council to drive him to more Winter-knight-esque deals with a devil to get the political security that came with the membership.
The rest of it was OK- there are some good bits. The "we don't fully trust Harry, maybe he's evil" thing is so old at this point.
Especially because it's kind of forced, like Butters' rant in the last book, which is more or less forgotten, and seemed to come out of nowhere, like it was just part of his arc to become the Knight of Faith. It fits, yes, but it seems like his moment of doubt was just stuck in there to make Harry feel bad and give Butters something to beat. I'd like the thing with the Wardens to feel earned too, and not something that's going to be fixed by Harry's badassery in "Battle Ground". It would be interesting if going forward, there is tension that, regardless of his relationship with the rest of the Council, means he can't count on the trust & loyalty of those Wardens as unreservedly as he could. Or it could be building to making Harry more of a perceived ambiguously dark figure to others in the setting. Butcher just has to stop transparently throwing this stuff in there to manufacture conflict for the plot, make Harry feel worse or raise the stakes by preventing him from being able to build on his earned success and connections.

Another thing is I have long felt that Harry's kind of been a bit of a dick in his relations with the Council, and maybe he's finally getting some grown-up type blowback. For the most part the consequences of his smart-assery has been physical threats from bad guys who deserve worse and who are going to get comeuppance by the end of the book. But he's been unnecessarily combative and rather uncooperative over a bad teenage experience. And, yeah, I am 100% on the Council's side on the warlock issue. Harry's basically demanding that someone else undertake a reformation of their dealings & policies. Is he going to secure and care for and rehabilitate them? Not really his skillset. So he's pouting at the Council that no one wants to completely reverse course on their vocation or chosen field of study to explore a field that centuries of experience suggest is fruitless. The conflict with Ebenezer was kind of startling because for once he & his ilk on the Council aren't blowing praise up Harry's ass.

So maybe if he has to start being more political as he threatened to grow with at the end of "Proven Guilty".


I just... I wanted more of the actual Peace Talks! There was almost NONE of that, and it turns out they were a sham, anyway! Ugh.
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Also, Justine is totally Nfected. Thomas muttering "Justine..." the whole time makes a lot more sense in that context.

Except it doesn't really explain his actions WRT attacking the svartelves.


Butcher gets a pass, this one time, because I really enjoy Dresden, and I think I've heard his life has been a bit chaotic the last 5 years? Makes writing a bit tough.
Emphasis on the "one".
But if you're selling me a 30 dollar book (GODDAMMIT Wal-Mart has it for 17!?), it had damn well better be a full book!

Yep. Although, devil's advocate, it seems comparable in size to the rest of the DF books... (have not yet acquired a hard copy).
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