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Your strategy, even for a Biden voter like myself, seems extremist.

Democratic Senator Reed helped eliminate the filibuster on most judicial nominees in 2013.
Republican Senator McConnell finished the job and eliminated the filibuster on Supreme Court nominees in 2017.


Except the Dems did it after an unprecedented blockade of Federal judge appointments for 2 years by the Republicans during the Obama administration.

<Quote>I would rather see a group of moderate senators on both the Republican and Democratic side come together and return the filibuster to all nominees than to see what you propose above. </Quote>
Who are these mythical moderate Republican Senators?

But more importantly, I really don't know if I'm for the filibuster. It's anti-majoritarian, and the Senate locks in minority power enough as it is.


Besides, I wouldn't count PR as being solidly Democratic or even Washington D.C. as it gets whiter and less likely to vote Democratic. Not to mention that if you choose to go the route of expanding the Supreme Court to achieve some sort of ideological win, then when Republicans are next in power they too can enact all sorts of court packing schemes.

Oh definitely don't count either as permanent Dem strongholds. That assumes neither the Dems nor the GOP will ever evolve, nor the country.

The advantage will be temporary for the Dems. But it rights a ridiculous injustice, so I think it should be done regardless of the political calculus. Since the Dems are in the zone where they think it gives them an advantage to do it, I'll be happy to see them do it. If they're stupid enough to think they'll then never have to work hard for these voters, they'll deserve consequences.


True reform needs to find a compromise rather than continued escalation. We need to draw back and explore ideas like term limits for Supreme Court justices. Removing the Senate from the confirmation role. 18 year terms so that each 4 years 1 new nominee goes on the Supreme Court. Things that will allow our democracy to flourish and our Supreme Court to not be viewed through a partisan lens.

You sound like me a couple of years ago.

Explain this to me: the GOP has just about won a decisive round in their effort to secure control of the Supreme Court. Why, after winning, will they come to the table to compromise? Why, after installing young, conservative stalwarts like Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett, with steep political costs to themselves, would they come to the table for a Constitutional Amendment to limit the terms of these justices?

I'm all for that Amendment. I just see 0 chance of it succeeding in a single Red state.

My next preference is for the Dems to add more seats to the Court, but make it so a randomly selected subset of the full bench listens to any given case. This makes it hard to know what the court balance will be for any case, which reduces the political stakes of each Supreme Court confirmation. It also actually helps, because the Court routinely has to reject a bunch of important cases because they don't have the time.

I'm not a 100% sure this can be done purely by Congress, but if they can, that is what the Dems should do. Add more members to the Courts, and make it so no given case has a pre-determined liberal vs conservative balance in the Court to contend with.


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