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A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. - Edit 1

Before modification by TyrReborn at 30/05/2022 08:18:49 PM



You might. I don't, despite also hating their leader the organization and how the people are treated, because I don't hate the people themselves. But I guess that kind of lumping together of all these things comes easily to you? I can state quite honestly that there's no nation on this planet that I hate, while having deep dislike or outright hatred for various aspects of those nations. An alien concept to you, it would seem.

I don't hate America, but even if I did you sure don't behave like I'm entitled to this opinion.


Semantics. "I don't hate it, I just strongly object to everything about it!" That's fine; if you want to say it isn't hate, you can say it isn't hate. But it is apparent.



Go right ahead and do that. I think I'll have you beat in the depth of my belief of how things are wrong in India, and the amount of evidence I can give you to prove that.

Naw, thanks, I know very well that we should get our own house in order before we go criticizing others.


You seem unable to imagine that love can coexist with criticism and distaste for aspects of a nation. What you're demanding of me is blind, idolatry worship.

No, what I'm asking is that you suggest actual solutions. "The Constitution is dumb!" is not a solution.


Whoever you think my ilk are, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. My literal first response to this post says, right at the top:

Your Twitter buddies aside, there's no serious political conversation about banning all guns or repealing the Second Amendment.

Neither is needed to prevent the massive number of gun deaths in America.


Then you're dense. There are serious political conversations about banning all guns and repealing the Second Amendment. Thank God that will never happen, because 2/3rds of States aren't urban hellholes, but to claim "there's no serious conversation" is patently false.



No thanks. I'll spend my effort pointing out the bad design of the Constitutional Amendment process instead, as that's my understanding of the issue here.

Well, that's fine I suppose. That fits into "deal", even though I'd describe it more as "cry".




Seeing what we've done wrong and how we can do better is political, dolt. You don't know what politics is, just happy to label whatever you dislike as politics.

It's a super convenient position, of course. But in literally every sphere of life and politics, if people are agitating for change and see the absence of change have horrific consequences, they have every right to point out that this is the case.


"These people died so you should give up your rights!" Ok.



But you'd rather not address any of that, want to enforce the status quo, and so anyone daring to point out that the status quo is failing our youngest and most defenseless is, of course the person who is actually evil.

In-fucking-deed! And, horrible that it is, better that 19 children should die in the light of day so that all may see the horror and tragedy of the act, than 1000 a day in the concealed light of a surgery room.


I'm under no obligation to put up with that shit.
Nothing to add here, I couldn't put it better myself.

No. I just hate you for suporting the murder of kids as a price for your unrestricted, unregulated freedom.


Hahahaha.


I'm sure you think you're all of America, but as I pointed out, that isn't the case. I have plenty of friends and family, colleagues and public figures I admire who, quite contrary to gutter filth like you, are pushing to change the awful state of this country. And I love them.

Well, that's more for the "deal" pile, then, I guess.



Then there should be no law. Let humans freely be as evil or good as they want to be, and let's see whatever becomes of our species.

That's literally what's happening hahahah. There is no law that rules man on this world, the strong will win and the weak will die. And that's why America is dying. Because people like you have made us weak, have made us hate ourselves, while those who murder humanity take advantage and march.


If you believe that, believe it to the hilt. When you pick and choose what "freedoms" you support without limits, and decry anyone pointing out your hypocrisy as an enemy of freedom, all you're doing is attempting to use that incompetent bludgeon of an argument to take away my freedom to make my point. Unfortunately for you, I really don't give a rats ass for those kinds of hypocritical hystrionics.

Hey, guess what, I do. Abortion is murder, but I don't support banning it, because people must be free to choose their actions. In the same spirit, I would have vehemently disagreed with police arresting this deranged shooter before he purchased his gun, had they somehow had the ability to.

People will always choose regardless, attempting to control that will inevitable fail.

Look at any city and state with major gun control laws.


You may choose to live in a society that mandates human behavior and leads to the death of the human spirit, but that's your prerogative.

Oh yes. If I don't support your right to buy whatever gun you want no matter your criminal history or mental state, no matter your intent to kill or your desire to not register or get licenced to own said firearm, I must hate freedom. The human spirit is unrestricted access to guns, but not the ability to live of 10 year olds. Fuck the hell off.
Also also, it's pretty fucking hilarious seeing you whine about "dead kids!" when you're super pro-abortion. Yeah, you're real concerned about children.

There's nothing inconsistent in my position. I hold fetuses pre viability aren't children, and support the right of actual humans, women, to make decisions about their bodies.

Your position, however, is that fetuses are children that must be protected at all costs, no matter what freedoms are violated. But the moment they're born, and it's freedoms you value that you perceive a threat to in an attempt to keep these children protected, suddenly it's the human spirit that's being crushed by enforcing any regulation that can save their lives.

Do you morons even hear yourself as you speak?



Also, total freedom to buy guns, but no freedom to define yourself and your identity, eh? How's your championing of the human spirit going, again?

"Championing the human spirit" means "lying to people about facts" to you?


What an utterly noxious excuse for a human being you are.

Man, I don't even have to write half this post.



Dude, not one of those times have you actually shown me, factually, that I'm wrong. In this case, for instance, proof that Republicans have constantly offered compromise bills that address the issue of gun violence, which Democrats dismiss because it doesn't go far enough and ban all guns, or do whatever other maximalist Boogeyman law you think they favor...that would constitute proof I'm wrong.

The exact opposite is true here, so of course rather than admit that and focus on the actual problem, you're wasting all our time with hollow, inconsistent claims to bring the champion of freedom and human spirit and flinging accusations of hating America and North Korea and not India, as if this is some kind of zero sum contest.

If they'll continue to insist on conditions that kill kids, I'm not going to give them an ounce of relief. If you want to coddle your precious Republicans, push them to stop rooting for a status quo that has this country such untenable atrocities, rather than asking me to be kind to them.

It's truly contemptuous that you think that real respect for those kids is to shut up and do nothing. What a contemptible coward. But so of a piece with standard Republican gaslighting.

And I'm tired of you dickwads trying to insist that asking for a solution as the world burns is somehow evil. So long as I make you more tired than I am, I'm content. It's not much, and it changes nothing on the ground, but if you're annoyed or exhausted in your attempts to smugly claim the moral high ground of doing nothing as children die, that brings me satisfaction.

So no. I won't fuck off. I won't shut up. If you're tired, you're welcome to not read my posts or reply to them.


And, clearly, that's the right move, because you're a lunatic, and yours, and your friends and families if they're the same as you, is precisely the idiocy that's going to allow autocrats to rule this world.


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