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The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM

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Trump lunging at a secret service officer, for one. The officer himself came out to say it never happened.


Did he now? Under oath, like Cassidy Hutchinson was? Because tweets have no obligation to be honest, so I'm not obliged to believe anything seen on Twitter. He's been invited to give his statement in a deposition, which he has refused to do...
But that doesn’t matter, right, because someone heard it did from Trump’s uncle’s hairdresser’s cousin’s dogwalker.

We now have a cop who says he saw the altercation, and evidence the Secret Service deleted texts from that day. So it would matter if it was true.
You call it a straw man but it’s not - it’s literally what you’re saying when you’re calling it an insurrection. That’s what an insurrection is you entire box of tools.

An insurrection is defined as "a violent uprising against an authority or government". Success or failure is immaterial to the definitely. Was there an uprising against the government that day? I don't see how not. Was there violence, both threatened and used? Yes, with massive quantities of photographic and videographic evidence. How's this not an insurrection again?
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Prosecute Trump? fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:18:24 PM 719 Views
I would be surprised, but not shocked if there was an indictment. damookster - 14/07/2022 09:26:45 PM 346 Views
There is no way he's not running again in 2024. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:45:28 PM 442 Views
There's no way he agrees to not run fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:46:55 PM 337 Views
I fear you are right. damookster - 14/07/2022 10:17:40 PM 347 Views
Let me sum up the case. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:44:20 PM 400 Views
Word vomit that is completely false and full of irrelevant asides is not a summary fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:57:30 PM 360 Views
Lol parody account, you live in a dream world. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:20:09 PM 359 Views
Sure fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:48:19 PM 391 Views
Parody account: face reality edition Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 03:09:48 PM 377 Views
Broken record. Try another track. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 09:59:22 PM 336 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 341 Views
The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM 361 Views
As part of a device replacement program. Dragonsoul - 19/07/2022 10:12:31 PM 370 Views
It's like you're on a sugar high fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 04:50:29 AM 385 Views
This is an excellent point. damookster - 20/07/2022 05:05:27 AM 346 Views
Thanks! fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:42:09 PM 362 Views
Re: It's like you're on a sugar high Dragonsoul - 21/07/2022 02:32:47 PM 376 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 356 Views
Ugh damookster - 14/07/2022 10:21:00 PM 339 Views
It's Trump's party, like it or not. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:12:02 PM 389 Views
No. It isn't. damookster - 15/07/2022 05:04:36 PM 349 Views
LOL okay. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 09:10:36 PM 370 Views
You are missing the entire fucking point. damookster - 16/07/2022 12:53:59 AM 371 Views
No, you are. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:13:57 AM 348 Views
As will the fact that being Italian born and living in Canada means you have no dog in this hunt. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2022 02:40:09 AM 189 Views
Live in the US now son. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 01:42:41 PM 350 Views
Agreed with Dragonsoul Roland00 - 16/07/2022 07:39:57 PM 348 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:21 AM 390 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:23 AM 338 Views
That's not entirely fair AgentApple - 15/07/2022 01:10:25 PM 335 Views
Yeah, it's a tough one. Legolas - 14/07/2022 10:22:06 PM 393 Views
Yeah exactly fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 12:12:19 AM 355 Views
Why are they calling it an insurrection, not a riot ? AgentApple - 15/07/2022 09:43:09 AM 345 Views
Because if they call it a riot they have no way of trying to scare average Americans from voting Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:25:22 PM 364 Views
Because there was a plan of action and they're laying out that evidence. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:41:42 PM 353 Views
Regarding the elections... Legolas - 15/07/2022 07:28:07 PM 394 Views
as always, damookster - 15/07/2022 08:34:45 PM 354 Views
Voter ID fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 10:10:24 PM 389 Views
damookster - 16/07/2022 12:32:06 AM 370 Views
Oh please! fionwe1987 - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM 357 Views
Ha! damookster - 16/07/2022 01:51:08 AM 341 Views
I think what separates us is less policy than belief in the health of the Republican Party fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 03:44:01 PM 385 Views
Have you read the "Stop the Steal" article from the NYT magazine? damookster - 19/07/2022 06:57:24 PM 344 Views
I'd saved it for later. Half way through it now... fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:40:48 PM 344 Views
(Not elite stuff) but Part of it goes back to the 80s and the militia movement Roland00 - 21/07/2022 06:58:33 AM 335 Views
I derive some comfort from the fact that I have never voted for Trump. damookster - 21/07/2022 08:57:33 PM 343 Views
This is the single most reasonable thing I've ever read from you. *NM* Narg - 18/07/2022 06:08:35 PM 204 Views
You think Trump should have been removed from office over Ukraine? Tom - 21/07/2022 02:44:40 PM 346 Views
I share your concerns around indicting Trump damookster - 21/07/2022 08:44:20 PM 324 Views
I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM 349 Views
To Go Baroque here Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:32:27 PM 354 Views
One last thing Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:38:04 PM 332 Views
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