One last thing about Moral Relativists
My user name is Roland, a name that is spiritual to me. Put another way King Arthur lore with the Siege Perilous and the Holy Grail, are you worthy when you put the horn / cup to your lips?
And since it is spiritual my feelings on this is multi layered, to the point it is ineffable to other people, but we are all ineffable in one domain of our lives to others, I am just displaying myself and one of the sources of my knots.