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Fun things I have since learned about some references in the Oi-Wan Kenobi show Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/03/2023 03:57:29 PM

1: Jabiim, the planet where Vader hunts down the rebels thanks to Reva tracking Leia's stupid droid, is a hugely important place in Anakin's & Obi-Wan's history, it was the site of their most brutal battle during the Clone Wars and in other media, haunted Anakin's memories even after he became Darth Vader. Obi-Wan was made a POW in the battle and was believed dead, and every other one of their fellow Jedi WAS killed there.

This should have been extremely significant to either or both characters when they returned there on the show, but was never referenced.


2: The Grand Inquisitor, played by Rupert Friend and Fifth Brother, played by Sun Kang, where significant characters in one of the cartoons. The Grand Inquisitor is actually supposed to be a member of the species on Utapau, the planet where Obi-Wan confronted and killed General Grievous. He's one of those very tall gray skinned aliens, with prominent vertical furrows on their skin, and the only one to speak had a very deep voice. On the Kenobi show, he has a weak, reedy voice, has very pale skin I would call bone white and barely visible furrows, as well as not being very tall. Speaking of tall, Third Brother in the cartoon is something of a brute himself. Not the size of a typical Asian man. For the record I like both Friend and Kang as actors and have enjoyed their performances & characters in other movies & shows in which I have seen them. Those performances do not include voicing the cartoons in which the Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother appear (which were written by Dave Filoni currently employed by Disney making some of their streaming Star Wars shows, so there is no reason they could not have received his input on any of this). In fact, I have heard a rumor that both actors embraced the "technique" of aggressively ignoring other portrayals so as not to let foreknowledge of their characters' fates or arc affect their own performances. I don't see how a professional actor, whose entirely performance relies on pretending to be something and someone you are not, can be unable to ACT as if he does not know something his character is not supposed to know. I mean, do actors never read scripts, so that they never find out that a statement their character might make in Act 1 is proven incorrect by information revealed in Act 2? How do they manage to perform in Act 1, as if their character knows/believes a thing that is not true, when they, the actors, actually know it?!

Also, in the TV show, Fifth Brother seems to think he is in charge in the absence of the Grand Inquisitor as a matter of course, only for Reva to announce that she has Vader's backing to run the search, and apparently this is not how Fifth Brother behaves when the Grand Inquisitor actually dies for real in the cartoon.


3: There was a video game in which a Jedi character has to infiltrate the Fortress Inquisitorius (which, to my shock, is not something they invented for the show, an assumption I made based on the sheer stupidity of the name) by swimming underwater, just as Obi-Wan does. However, in the game, there is apparently a reference to taking the shields on the Fortress down, whereas in the show, it had no shields, because no one would be stupid enough to attack it.




Then again, the whole plot line of the show seems predicated on the writers & producers having absolutely never having seen the original Star Wars film, in which Leia shows no sign of having ever met Obi-Wan, introduces herself in a recording meant for him by (slightly, but forgivably, inaccurately) citing his relationship with her father, and comforts Luke after his apparent death, while showing none herself for the man who rescued her from multiple captors as a child, and bonded with her and gave her the only information she really has of her bio parents.

If they haven't seen the original film and the only one to feature both Leia and Obi-Wan as corporeal and sapient beings, I suppose it is really too much to ask them to have checked out a bunch of cartoons and comics and video games and novels too.

This show is a veritable onion of bad writing and bad attempts at fan service. Usually we experience mild disgruntlement when a piece of media sacrifices one of those qualities in favor of the other. Obi-Wan Kenobi kills both, to improve neither.

Speaking of Disney Star Wars, John Wick 4 was very good and like the arguably best piece of Disney Star Wars media, features Donnie Yen playing a blind martial arts expert. This post is now my version of a (open-faced) compliment sandwich.

Cannoli
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This message last edited by Cannoli on 29/03/2023 at 03:07:34 PM
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