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There is no winning or losing. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 17/09/2023 02:46:14 PM

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We here a lot of blather about how the future of our democratic republic is on the line in next year's election. But here is my question.

When the overwhelming majority of both Houses of Congress care about nothing other than whether or not each vote helps their chances for reelection, hasn't this fight already been lost?


Were Trump to win he enters a lame duck president. He can't change any laws to run again and his second term would last from 2025 - 2029 (were he to survive that long). So look instead to see who he chooses as his VP. Given the realignment of American politics and parties, he would be smart to choose a self-made Hispanic male or Hispanic female as a VP candidate. But Trump is definitely not smart. So instead expect some Caucasian female.

As for Congress. I need a total rejection of the extreme right and the extreme left. But given how primaries work in the US and who gets nominated and then who gets elected, the ability to elect people who WANT to work with people across the aisle keeps narrowing. Which is sad for us as citizens and residents of the nation. But stasis is not defeat. It's just treating in the water until such time that something else happens - swimming forward or drowning.

Look to se where the economy is in 2024. That will show many things about our future. Including who gets elected. Immigration will be/should be the big issue if illegal aliens* (that's right readers - illegal. Not undocumented. Illegal because we have laws about this) keep coming north of the border and being evenly distributed across the nation. Stunt or not by Texas and Florida, it has proven effective. Northeast Liberals love to say X until X is in their backyard. We already see this in action in NYC and here in Massachusetts too. There is a lot of pushback. And its really no different than what was happening/is happening in Europe where people arrive in Italy or Greece and head north to Germany and Sweden. Europe itself has its own discussions about distribution of immigrants/refugees.

  • I am an immigrant to the US myself, unless you have forgotten. So if you want to reply to this from your nativistprivilegedpositions, go ahead. But if the rest of the world can choose to have strong borders and a points system then so can we. We can discuss how having millions of poor, uneducated immigrants depresses wages too.

Oh and because this is fun and relevant (as I am a man and think about this often and this is an amusing 2024 meme) - we can discuss The Roman Empire and slavery and what would have happened had there been no slavery at the time.

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I have an USA politics question, for any who care to comment. - 16/09/2023 03:17:52 PM 196 Views
There is no winning or losing. - 17/09/2023 02:46:14 PM 83 Views
That's the question every election. And the answer is the same - 17/09/2023 05:18:28 PM 97 Views
Re: That's the question every election. And the answer is the same - 17/09/2023 06:04:34 PM 66 Views
Re: That's the question every election. And the answer is the same - 17/09/2023 07:05:36 PM 86 Views
Part of the problem is very simple: you have too frequent elections. - 17/09/2023 07:03:47 PM 76 Views
I agree about the House. Every 2 years is absurd. - 23/09/2023 03:39:45 PM 53 Views

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