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Ugh. He can't even own the changes he makes, trying to pretend they were in the books all along? Legolas Send a noteboard - 25/10/2023 05:42:20 PM

View original postAt New York Comic Con earlier this month, showrunner Rafe Judkins teased some of what's in store for season 3. Just as season 2 combined elements from both The Great Hunt and The Dragon Reborn (the second and third books in Robert Jordan's long saga), so will season 3 feature characters and locations from the fourth and fifth books, The Shadow Rising and The Fires of Heaven. This means the show will explore the visit to the Aiel Waste and dive deeper into the Aiel culture, from which protagonist and Dragon Reborn Rand al'Thor (Josha Stradowski) was born before being adopted by Tam and taken to the village of Two Rivers.

I figured as much. As Cannoli points out, we got really very little from the third book, but what with the extra big deal they made of the Dragon proclaiming himself at Falme, along with the Aiel already showing up out there and never mind the geography, I assumed they'd just skip the Stone of Tear scenes altogether. After season two, we can only assume season three will be equally atrocious.
View original postThe last time all 13 Forsaken were alive in the world, the Dragon was incarnated as Lews Therin Telamon (Alexander Karim). That was thousands of years ago, but what happened back then is still a driving force in what they do and what they want.

He mentions 13 Forsaken - but is that Rafe saying there'll be 13, or the article's author just assuming? It seems like way too much for the show given how much else they've cut - and Be'lal's storyline has already been cut, while Asmodean seemed to have been replaced by Logain in his teaching role (not that that made any sense).
View original post"Both Ishamael and Lanfear get another shot with this person that they were very close with and ended up becoming mortal enemies of," Judkins says. "So with Lanfear it's like, is she trying to recapture love with this man she loved three thousand years ago? Is she starting to fall for Rand, or does she hate Rand and only love the pieces of him that are Lews? That is so interesting and complicated, and that's a relationship that can sustain a lot of seasons of interest because both of their perspectives on it are f—ed up and unique in a way that is very cool for the show. We get to explore something that you don't get to explore very often."

This is definitely not what things are like in the books - but ok, so be it, I can accept major changes from the book as long as they work on the show. Unfortunately they mostly don't. I do like the general idea of a more sane and rational, less extremely self-obsessed version of Lanfear - and with Ilyena taken out of the picture, one whose relationship with LTT may have been more genuine than in the books. But her motivations still seem confused and her actions erratic, by no means showing her as particularly good at scheming.
View original post Judkins continues, "we just tried to humanize her in every way we could because a lot of her stuff in the books is a little bit more straight-down-the-middle evil early on. By the end of the book series, you really come to understand who she is as a woman, which makes her lovable even when she's doing horrible things. We tried to bring that and put it all in season 2."

Uh, yeah, I don't know which book series he has been reading, but it wasn't WoT... certainly, there's the whole thing with her surviving the Last Battle and also before that, it's made pretty obvious that she cares more about her personal goals than about the DO winning, and might even want to avert the latter scenario - sort of like Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But that's still a long way off from being 'lovable', barring a much more significant redemption arc, which in the books never happened and the show seems to think they can just skip past. And the 'you really come to understand who she is as a woman' part makes even less sense - when is this supposed to have happened? Cyndane has only a handful of PoVs and from what I recall, she's rarely very introspective in them, whether 'lovably' or otherwise.
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The Wheel of Time showrunner discusses the Forsaken and what's coming in season 3 - 25/10/2023 10:50:23 AM 251 Views
No Stone of Tear? And where the F is Callandor? Good grief. - 25/10/2023 05:20:26 PM 105 Views
By the way, there is no way in hell Rafe read the books..... - 25/10/2023 05:35:23 PM 122 Views
Ugh. He can't even own the changes he makes, trying to pretend they were in the books all along? - 25/10/2023 05:42:20 PM 122 Views
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *NM* - 25/10/2023 05:59:08 PM 40 Views
Rafe: "Lanfear is 2cute2b4saken" *NM* - 26/10/2023 05:40:12 PM 42 Views
Phew, he really doesn't understand the Forsaken - 29/10/2023 01:29:04 AM 126 Views

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