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Re: I have to say I'm a little... disappointed White Flame of Tar Valon Send a noteboard - 26/08/2010 06:43:44 AM
The town killed scum left and right, got lots of successful protects, and still ended up losing. We started with 18 players...

possible scum:
4 mafiaA
3 mafiaB/cult
1 miller/SK (better count this twice, since it's 2 lynches to get rid of the one)

That's 50% of the players as possible scum... way too much for the town imho.

Then lets look at the accuracy rate of killing scum..

We lynched 2 mafia and a serial killer vs. 3 townies (and 1 was Yuna asking to be lynched... don't count this one against us seriously - Kylia and I were totally against it the first time; most of the people voting her were *gasp* scum) - that's 50-60% success lynching scum which is pretty good for the town. In addition to that, we got 2 successful night kills in our favor with no losses. No night kill night 1. The town played this one about as well as it could.

In fact, the town played this too well. It got punished for actually lynching the mafiaA since really what the town needed to win was for the mafiaA to kill mafiaB (the town couldn't realistically hope to win by lynching or night killing EVERY bad guy - there were way too many). So when the town focused down on mafiaA... they lost.

If White Flame really was a cop/tracker role, then honestly that group is really overpowered. A cultist cop that basically confirms the other cult members is virtually unbeatable.

I think White Flame should have been lynched after Darth Katie, but honestly Yuna made a completely useless roleclaim and character claim (Dark One) that pretty much sealed the win for the cult/mafiaB, not for the first time in the game either lol (town got punished pretty badly for lynching her 3 times). Getting White Flame lynched wouldn't have been easy, but it probably could have been done, assuming Kylia would actually have voted for someone lol

yeah, I'm a little upset cuz town got the shaft here :)


yea I was glad that you all decided the Dark One was a greater threat than a person with robotic implants. And if you really thought I should've been lynched next you shouldn't have bothered protecting me :P But I'm glad you did, so thanks :)
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OH YEAH! - 26/08/2010 05:18:19 AM 835 Views
Were you guys a cult? *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:35:05 AM 491 Views
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I think this is my first game with a genuine Cult. - 26/08/2010 06:11:26 AM 869 Views
Keep in mind they tend to get axed - 26/08/2010 06:13:34 AM 929 Views
That should have happened, but not the case here. *NM* - 26/08/2010 06:15:26 AM 499 Views
See Fox's night 2 message - 26/08/2010 06:37:57 AM 844 Views
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Yeah, that's part of the reason I suspected you, in fact. - 26/08/2010 06:16:31 AM 907 Views
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You know what's really weird? - 26/08/2010 06:31:01 AM 897 Views
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For the record... - 26/08/2010 06:48:40 AM 870 Views
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Re: For the record... - 26/08/2010 07:34:46 AM 900 Views
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That's partly my fault. - 26/08/2010 07:48:02 AM 985 Views
Re: That's partly my fault. - 26/08/2010 09:05:14 AM 987 Views
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No, a stalemate - 27/08/2010 05:01:13 AM 904 Views
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I put this in the wrong place *NM* - 26/08/2010 06:09:26 AM 462 Views
Incidentally, getting Shai'tan as a pro-town role is seriously rough luck. - 26/08/2010 06:10:49 AM 1016 Views
Actually he was a Miller - 26/08/2010 06:14:07 AM 824 Views
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Re: I have to say I'm a little... disappointed - 26/08/2010 06:43:44 AM 912 Views
you were still a tracker - 26/08/2010 06:50:39 AM 966 Views
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The Borg Queen role... - 26/08/2010 06:13:52 AM 863 Views
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Night 2 messages - 26/08/2010 06:16:15 AM 939 Views
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Re: So, did everyone's target randomly change, here? - 26/08/2010 07:25:58 AM 827 Views
Night 3 messages - 26/08/2010 06:29:47 AM 1006 Views
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They couldn't have - 26/08/2010 06:55:03 AM 973 Views
Night 4 messages - 26/08/2010 06:36:16 AM 1121 Views
heh, beet/Kylia actually did end up confirming White Flame as a tracker. - 26/08/2010 07:09:36 AM 899 Views
So ranagrande, it was just completely random which ghost she saw? - 26/08/2010 07:15:39 AM 1069 Views
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It was a great idea *NM* - 26/08/2010 07:37:22 AM 462 Views
Lol @ your answer. *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:50:55 PM 398 Views
Night 5 messages - 26/08/2010 06:44:51 AM 822 Views
That Barbie role is pretty cool - 26/08/2010 07:03:19 AM 859 Views
I'm glad you asked me that - 26/08/2010 07:22:46 AM 983 Views
Quite alot of options *NM* - 26/08/2010 01:05:14 PM 585 Views
Haha I want those Barbies *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:54:04 PM 378 Views
Speaking of weird... - 26/08/2010 06:08:30 AM 948 Views
I'm curious who else got asked night questions by Kylia - 26/08/2010 06:29:44 AM 973 Views
I think the reincarnations proved unfortunate for her role. - 26/08/2010 06:34:50 AM 925 Views
She didn't get to choose who she questioned - 26/08/2010 06:40:14 AM 761 Views
kinda, yeah. *NM* - 26/08/2010 10:44:02 AM 416 Views
Yay! - 26/08/2010 06:39:24 AM 833 Views
Everything went wrong when Darth_Katie roleclaimed - 26/08/2010 06:45:10 AM 922 Views
Yeah, that was probably a pretty dumb move on my part - 26/08/2010 05:56:48 PM 858 Views
Well, overall I have to say - 26/08/2010 07:19:51 AM 936 Views
Good stuff, rana! - 26/08/2010 07:38:11 AM 726 Views
Nah, it was the regular Lie Detector role from Mafiascum - 26/08/2010 07:43:15 AM 901 Views
Oh, and I'm still smug about calling Talic as Captain Morgan - 26/08/2010 07:39:18 AM 917 Views
Yeah, that got me totally blindsided. - 26/08/2010 05:58:01 PM 821 Views
Good game, everybody!! - 26/08/2010 05:58:50 PM 867 Views
woe, my roles were nasty *NM* - 26/08/2010 09:03:35 PM 442 Views
I think being lynched three times in one game is a record. - 26/08/2010 09:19:36 PM 864 Views
yeah - 26/08/2010 11:35:05 PM 788 Views
Yup. Here you go! - 27/08/2010 12:18:52 AM 1026 Views
huzza! - 27/08/2010 12:31:13 AM 835 Views
And all three were similar in that she was basically asking to be lynched - 27/08/2010 01:26:18 AM 885 Views
I guess I technically won.... - 27/08/2010 06:27:54 AM 741 Views

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