I never claimed I was surprised that nobody had counter-claimed, I said that the fact that nobody counterclaimed incites me to believe it.



Beetnemesis - our current mod - as Santa Claus, Mafia 17.



I view Watcher and Tracker as opposite halves of the same concept (which probably makes it unsurprising that the potential role in my last game included both) and while it has been seldom used in our games, I do not see it as a rare role. Add to that that Tracker is precisely the kind of fakeclaim that got severely burned (by Gher in the Mafia in Space game) and I do not view it as a safe claim.

Furthermore, the theme of this game suggests, to my inexperienced knowledge of the genre, a heavily roled game, and Watcher also seems like a very credible role for superheroes. About the Deadpool character in particular, I wouldn't know.



I'd be careful presuming you know how I'd react, you don't have as good a record as you might think in that regard. But I am curious to know why you think I reacted as I did if I do not believe what I'm writing. To defend White Flame? I feel like I've been more notable about bussing my allies when I was mafia than actually defending them, but maybe that's just my perspective. Especially given that your suggestion doesn't seem to have had any real popularity, White Flame is not at risk, why should I endanger myself to help him? But more importantly it makes no sense. You're accusing White Flame of being a serial killer, but also implying that I might be his teammate - that we are both mafia. And your argument for that is that my claim - that White Flame is not a serial killer - is suspicious. How does that work?

If you are right that White Flame is a serial killer, then I am by necessity not aligned with him.

If you are right in implying that we are conspiring together, then you are de facto admitting that I am absolutely correct in claiming that White Flame is not mafia. And if you admit that I am right, then why are you suspicious of me again?



Well, obviously the validity of the character as associated to the role is something entirely different. I do believe I have stated my ignorance on the subject. So that did not actually influence my judgment. Though from what you say, and a look at the wiki for the character, what you say does indeed make sense. At the same time, trying to find what the character had been up to at the time of the Skrull invasion brought me here. It seems to imply that Deadpool was indeed fighting the Skrulls.



Oh, most assuredly. I intend in no way to hinder most any investigative efforts, you will notice that my post doesn't even state that White Flame can't be a serial killer, it merely says three things:

1, I don't know that we have a serial killer and am leery of simply making that assumption,

2, I find White Flame's roleclaim to be satisfactory and therefore don't see significant basis for lynching him,

3, I will not be voting for White Flame based on the current situation.

Incidentally, you should probably have realised by now that I've always been extremely suspicious of people trying to steer the town towards lynching scum other than the mafia. Not because they're necessarily wrong, but because they're typically mafia themselves. It was Fox and Ravens who tried to get the town hunting a hypothetical serial killer in the first crossover game, and he was mafia. It was you who started asserting the dual mafia groups in the second crossover game, and while you were correct, you were also mafia.