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Watcher isn't an especially powerful role, I doubt the mafia would single him out. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 26/10/2010 02:56:03 AM
But my point here is more that I don't think we should really judge him based off his character but rather the way he acted when confronted. Judging directly from that, I'd say he's more innocent than guilty. I do get your point about the fantastic 4 and all that stuff though. With nothing else to go off of, I'll back you up but I won't feel good about it.


I don't think the way WF reacted bespeaks of really good or evil (though I do think that he made a very sensible defense in the above post. Granted, I am not really familiar with the actual comics, just the idea of them), but my main hang-up is I don't want to lynch a known Watcher on Day 1, since he could probably help us a great deal. Of course, if his claim is legit then he's probably going to get whacked Tonight anyway. Unless he doesn't, to keep suspicion alive. And now we're just veering off into unknowable WIFOM territory. So what to do? If he's a SK, his death helps the Town. But if he's really a Watcher, then his death hurts us more than just vanilla Townie. But we are probably rather role heavy, so maybe not? Maybe not?

And if we don't lynch WF, then who shall we lynch?
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RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE ONE: ASK NOT FOR WHOM THE SKRULL TOLLS! beetnemesis - 18/10/2010 04:53:46 AM 3483 Views
Vote Table beetnemesis - 18/10/2010 04:56:23 AM 1794 Views
There is only one things I can think to say in a moment like this: Fanatic-Templar - 18/10/2010 05:11:19 AM 1733 Views
No, but as a Skrull you would. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/10/2010 05:22:46 AM 1811 Views
What if I were a Skrull Superhero? Fanatic-Templar - 18/10/2010 06:11:40 PM 1829 Views
TIME MARCHES ON! *NM* Darth_Katie - 18/10/2010 05:11:34 AM 1003 Views
Wow. . . Amys - 18/10/2010 05:24:34 AM 1800 Views
One initial route suggests itself Isaac - 18/10/2010 05:40:43 AM 1774 Views
Sounds like a good plan to me. Hobo - 18/10/2010 06:00:39 AM 1750 Views
It's one of your usual suggestions and I guess we can go with it again. Fox and Ravens - 18/10/2010 06:03:51 AM 1768 Views
I think this sounds reasonable. Darth_Katie - 18/10/2010 03:54:26 PM 1806 Views
I think 5 is too many. How about 4? *NM* Bergioyn - 18/10/2010 06:42:44 PM 1035 Views
4's a good compromise Isaac - 18/10/2010 07:47:55 PM 1836 Views
is this for today Yunalesca - 18/10/2010 09:50:39 PM 1745 Views
Today. Hobo - 18/10/2010 09:59:06 PM 1747 Views
We may as well do it today Isaac - 18/10/2010 10:17:22 PM 1793 Views
If we're going to do it, it needs to be today ranagrande - 18/10/2010 10:35:12 PM 1793 Views
Any order is going to have to be randomly established, imo. Darth_Katie - 18/10/2010 10:45:40 PM 1728 Views
I don't know that its a major concern, people can just submit them Isaac - 19/10/2010 12:49:14 AM 1761 Views
Present. Bergioyn - 18/10/2010 07:40:21 AM 1726 Views
Amazing! Incredible! Uncanny! ranagrande - 18/10/2010 08:20:09 AM 1716 Views
I meant for that to be a reply to the original message, but oh well *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2010 08:21:06 AM 1123 Views
here! Yunalesca - 18/10/2010 10:47:36 AM 1944 Views
I am here fistofpainx - 18/10/2010 07:48:40 PM 1724 Views
Hola White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/10/2010 08:51:52 PM 1748 Views
Character Claims (Table) - Complete Isaac - 19/10/2010 01:04:38 AM 1900 Views
My list Fox and Ravens - 19/10/2010 01:26:14 AM 1767 Views
Mine Hobo - 19/10/2010 01:27:53 AM 1751 Views
Mine Darth_Katie - 19/10/2010 02:08:49 AM 1693 Views
Me! Amys - 19/10/2010 03:11:10 AM 1762 Views
Son of Adun. Fanatic-Templar - 19/10/2010 03:19:49 AM 1958 Views
And that is still an incomplete list *NM* ranagrande - 19/10/2010 04:24:23 AM 969 Views
en taro adun, executor *NM* BlackAdder - 20/10/2010 07:17:16 PM 1043 Views
All right, I pretty much chose my list on a whim though. Fanatic-Templar - 21/10/2010 12:09:57 AM 1789 Views
My list ranagrande - 19/10/2010 04:09:47 AM 1799 Views
this is my list fistofpainx - 19/10/2010 05:31:17 AM 1769 Views
Claims abound! Kronin al'Sulc - 19/10/2010 05:58:55 AM 1755 Views
Mine Bergioyn - 19/10/2010 07:50:50 AM 1668 Views
mine Yunalesca - 19/10/2010 10:42:22 AM 1840 Views
Re: Character Claims (Table) White Flame of Tar Valon - 19/10/2010 08:40:44 PM 1889 Views
So, anyone got any ideas? *NM* Bergioyn - 20/10/2010 07:19:51 AM 1015 Views
Possibly... Isaac - 20/10/2010 07:31:10 AM 1771 Views
Ok *NM* Bergioyn - 20/10/2010 05:00:57 PM 1014 Views
Sorry! I'm here. *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 09:28:57 PM 1114 Views
Why did it say Napoleon62? I'm ? *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 09:29:44 PM 1042 Views
This is REALLY weird *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 09:30:06 PM 1112 Views
Secret identity revealed! DUN DUN DUN! *NM* Bergioyn - 20/10/2010 09:31:48 PM 1090 Views
Busteeddddddddddddddddddd *NM* beetnemesis - 20/10/2010 09:35:02 PM 971 Views
This is an interesting development... *NM* ranagrande - 20/10/2010 10:10:19 PM 982 Views
What? *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 10:24:23 PM 1134 Views
How is it now? *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 10:25:26 PM 1087 Views
What the heck!?!?!? Please wait as I figure this out... *NM* Napoleon62 - 20/10/2010 10:26:05 PM 1172 Views
Whattttt?? Weird! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 20/10/2010 10:34:12 PM 980 Views
And probably slightly unethical. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 20/10/2010 11:06:40 PM 988 Views
Slightly? BlackAdder - 21/10/2010 12:57:34 AM 1795 Views
Actuall Napoleon is my brother *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 01:23:44 AM 1153 Views
That explains it. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/10/2010 05:16:38 AM 1069 Views
OH MY GOD! MURDERERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 21/10/2010 12:46:40 AM 960 Views
are we actualy going to do anything today? Yunalesca - 21/10/2010 01:31:15 AM 1796 Views
Re: Ok let me sit this one out...I don't know what's going on at all but...yeah *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 01:54:54 AM 1018 Views
And that's me ? getting modkilled if possible....Sorry everyone *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 01:55:26 AM 1126 Views
I'd rather have you stay in... Fox and Ravens - 21/10/2010 02:07:00 AM 1697 Views
I've done that quite a few times... Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 02:11:48 AM 1926 Views
Try the bottom of the message box... Isaac - 21/10/2010 03:54:51 AM 1747 Views
Bingo. Nebhead - 22/10/2010 10:35:20 AM 1775 Views
I mean, we don't have to. Napoleon isn't playing in this game. beetnemesis - 21/10/2010 02:58:29 AM 1726 Views
On the whole Napoleon/? issue Isaac - 21/10/2010 03:42:04 AM 1821 Views
Yeah, no need for ? to quit. *NM* Bergioyn - 21/10/2010 07:25:43 AM 981 Views
Yay!! *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 11:40:56 AM 1089 Views
Testing one two three *NM* ? - 21/10/2010 11:41:51 AM 991 Views
Ok...back to normal...that never happened...Where are we in the game? *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 11:42:21 AM 1041 Views
What? Again? *NM* Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 11:42:47 AM 1076 Views
Ok, here's what we can do. Fox and Ravens - 21/10/2010 01:33:53 PM 1657 Views
Sounds like a plan. Darth_Katie - 21/10/2010 02:34:46 PM 1654 Views
Umm.. Napoleon62 - 21/10/2010 09:41:13 PM 1780 Views
So that's everyone, I think. Darth_Katie - 22/10/2010 04:13:06 AM 1678 Views
Re: So that's everyone, I think. Isaac - 22/10/2010 08:00:43 AM 1683 Views
a minor correction ranagrande - 22/10/2010 02:43:27 PM 1744 Views
Re: a minor correction Isaac - 23/10/2010 03:08:02 AM 1718 Views
Well. . . Amys - 22/10/2010 07:03:12 PM 1684 Views
Re: Well. . . Isaac - 23/10/2010 02:56:00 AM 1727 Views
<---- Would totally play a Dresden Files game beetnemesis - 23/10/2010 04:03:17 AM 1963 Views
This is awesome Gher - 21/10/2010 09:06:24 PM 1703 Views
I'm surprised it never happened to us. We just rock. *NM* Hobo - 21/10/2010 11:52:00 PM 970 Views
Woah, you guys are related?? Darth_Katie - 22/10/2010 04:16:59 AM 1757 Views
Yes we are. He's my older brother. *NM* Hobo - 22/10/2010 04:47:31 AM 958 Views
Adds an extra layer of humor to your fratricidal actions back in game 9 Isaac - 22/10/2010 08:02:42 AM 9835 Views
I still bug him about that one. We finally end up a in a mason group together, Hobo - 22/10/2010 02:29:58 PM 1774 Views
That sounds Drow, not Cairhienin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/10/2010 07:00:22 PM 1679 Views
Gah. I thought I had that game figured out. Gher - 22/10/2010 07:45:23 PM 1712 Views
Sorry, I thought everyone knew that. Gher - 22/10/2010 07:50:10 PM 1722 Views
Its not really a big surprise but I don't think you've ever really mentioned it Isaac - 24/10/2010 04:59:02 AM 1768 Views
Really? I thought we had. Yeah, it didn't come up to often, but I thought we had mentioned it. *NM* Hobo - 24/10/2010 05:32:07 AM 1012 Views
Nope! *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/10/2010 07:18:23 AM 922 Views
If you use different computers, or even different accounts on the same computer, it wouldn't Nebhead - 22/10/2010 10:34:50 AM 1851 Views
So... What are we going to do? There doesn't seem to be much to discuss. *NM* Bergioyn - 23/10/2010 11:27:10 AM 978 Views
I think everyone is waiting for the ? and Napoleon62 situation to resolve *NM* fistofpainx - 23/10/2010 07:30:39 PM 983 Views
No, there's nothing to resolve there Isaac - 23/10/2010 08:43:17 PM 1795 Views
Ok. What are peoples opinions on how long should we give him? *NM* Bergioyn - 23/10/2010 10:18:46 PM 1021 Views
I think we should give him a reasonable amount of time. Darth_Katie - 23/10/2010 11:00:57 PM 1686 Views
depends what you define as reasonable Yunalesca - 24/10/2010 12:54:34 AM 1701 Views
I did put my hero people Napoleon62 - 24/10/2010 01:06:29 AM 1789 Views
Yeah, I put it up but... Isaac - 24/10/2010 01:33:01 AM 1718 Views
Oh ok. *NM* ? - 24/10/2010 01:34:03 PM 942 Views
oh ok Yunalesca - 24/10/2010 01:59:30 PM 1717 Views
Not sure how to proceed at the moment Isaac - 24/10/2010 05:09:20 AM 1728 Views
how about we all give our thoughts on who the SK might be? *NM* fistofpainx - 24/10/2010 06:57:57 AM 1024 Views
Who says we even have a SK? Darth_Katie - 24/10/2010 07:17:45 AM 1687 Views
Re: Who says we even have a SK? Isaac - 24/10/2010 08:45:22 AM 1707 Views
It's Day 1 right now, we don't have a whole lot. Kronin al'Sulc - 24/10/2010 07:03:58 AM 1768 Views
Yep. Darth_Katie - 24/10/2010 07:04:47 AM 1800 Views
Re: Not sure how to proceed at the moment White Flame of Tar Valon - 24/10/2010 03:16:29 PM 1718 Views
Okay then Kronin al'Sulc - 24/10/2010 03:24:22 PM 1598 Views
Re: Okay then Isaac - 24/10/2010 04:04:26 PM 1706 Views
Re: Okay then Isaac - 24/10/2010 04:06:37 PM 1738 Views
Re: Okay then White Flame of Tar Valon - 24/10/2010 04:27:43 PM 1721 Views
Re: Okay then Fox and Ravens - 24/10/2010 06:26:13 PM 1674 Views
I'm not going to be voting for White Flame anyway. Fanatic-Templar - 24/10/2010 07:15:31 PM 1641 Views
Something about this bugs me Isaac - 25/10/2010 05:28:48 AM 1800 Views
^Seconded. Kronin al'Sulc - 25/10/2010 05:54:45 AM 1717 Views
Re: Something about this bugs me Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2010 06:45:19 AM 2046 Views
Edit by way of post: Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2010 06:53:47 AM 1724 Views
Re: Edit by way of post: Isaac - 25/10/2010 08:50:28 AM 1706 Views
Oh, all right. That's more than fair. Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2010 06:21:07 PM 1670 Views
Re: Something about this bugs me Isaac - 25/10/2010 08:44:49 AM 1747 Views
I disagree with you. Fox and Ravens - 25/10/2010 05:05:03 PM 1715 Views
EBWOP Fox and Ravens - 25/10/2010 09:23:51 PM 1781 Views
i thought it was an airline Yunalesca - 26/10/2010 11:17:57 PM 1660 Views
Re: Something about this bugs me Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2010 06:50:16 PM 1706 Views
I'm in agreement with Isaac and Kronin. Hobo - 25/10/2010 06:21:23 AM 1681 Views
"Does Role Match Character?" Survey (Table) Isaac - 25/10/2010 05:26:21 AM 1835 Views
Yup. Kronin al'Sulc - 25/10/2010 05:53:03 AM 1732 Views
Re: Yup. Isaac - 25/10/2010 06:07:46 AM 1731 Views
Yes. *NM* Hobo - 25/10/2010 06:05:07 AM 957 Views
Yes, I imagine so. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2010 06:47:54 AM 924 Views
Yep *NM* Fox and Ravens - 25/10/2010 06:51:17 AM 954 Views
Yes. *NM* Bergioyn - 25/10/2010 07:36:23 AM 823 Views
yeah *NM* Yunalesca - 25/10/2010 08:39:44 AM 976 Views
Re: "Does Role Match Character?" Survey (Table) White Flame of Tar Valon - 25/10/2010 03:54:19 PM 1685 Views
Re: "Does Role Match Character?" Survey (Table) Hobo - 25/10/2010 05:34:28 PM 1814 Views
Well, the accusation is tied to the character of Deadpool being a homicidal maniac Darth_Katie - 25/10/2010 06:24:04 PM 1715 Views
Re: Well, the accusation is tied to the character of Deadpool being a homicidal maniac White Flame of Tar Valon - 25/10/2010 06:38:16 PM 1721 Views
You make a compelling point, sir. Darth_Katie - 25/10/2010 08:46:58 PM 1704 Views
This is what I meant by stretching for a match Isaac - 26/10/2010 12:40:50 AM 1901 Views
I'd also like to point out. Fox and Ravens - 26/10/2010 01:11:05 AM 1688 Views
That's the same game where Yuna was the Joker, wasn't it? Darth_Katie - 26/10/2010 01:51:35 AM 1635 Views
yes, lets bring that up as much as possible Yunalesca - 26/10/2010 09:30:56 AM 1680 Views
That's true Isaac - 26/10/2010 02:02:10 AM 1717 Views
That does make sense Fox and Ravens - 26/10/2010 02:12:33 AM 1872 Views
It does make sense. Darth_Katie - 26/10/2010 02:19:55 AM 1710 Views
Watcher isn't an especially powerful role, I doubt the mafia would single him out. Fanatic-Templar - 26/10/2010 02:56:03 AM 1567 Views
I dunno, better safe than sorry is always my NK motto. Darth_Katie - 26/10/2010 04:31:42 AM 1658 Views
Even in if they do single him out, Hobo - 26/10/2010 08:52:18 PM 1724 Views
Re: Even in if they do single him out, White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/10/2010 09:03:21 PM 1650 Views
It means I think we should do it. Hobo - 27/10/2010 12:43:34 AM 1707 Views
Yes *NM* Darth_Katie - 25/10/2010 06:33:22 PM 895 Views
yes *NM* fistofpainx - 25/10/2010 09:42:56 PM 933 Views
yes. *NM* Amys - 26/10/2010 02:24:23 AM 922 Views
Yes as far as I can see. I'm not too experienced with Marvel *NM* Napoleon62 - 26/10/2010 09:49:22 PM 1256 Views
So what's the temperature right now on this? Isaac - 27/10/2010 04:10:18 AM 1681 Views
Okay, Vote: White Flame of Tar Valon Isaac - 28/10/2010 02:24:09 AM 1695 Views
Re: Okay, Vote: White Flame of Tar Valon White Flame of Tar Valon - 28/10/2010 02:28:25 AM 1686 Views
I would, but I have an exam tomorrow. Darth_Katie - 28/10/2010 03:29:44 AM 1714 Views
Re: I would, but I have an exam tomorrow. Fox and Ravens - 28/10/2010 04:57:32 PM 1631 Views
RBIRL Kronin al'Sulc - 28/10/2010 07:04:44 AM 1722 Views
I'm not sure what we should do Fox and Ravens - 28/10/2010 11:12:07 PM 1715 Views
Some thoughts fistofpainx - 28/10/2010 05:35:58 AM 1696 Views
Is there a general consensus? Amys - 28/10/2010 04:37:08 PM 1690 Views
RBIRL and stuff ranagrande - 28/10/2010 03:49:58 AM 1693 Views
Okay, mega-absurd posting slump Isaac - 29/10/2010 03:01:38 PM 1760 Views
Vote: White Flame of Tar Valon *NM* Hobo - 29/10/2010 04:14:38 PM 1013 Views
Vote: White Flame *NM* Yunalesca - 29/10/2010 04:29:55 PM 942 Views
Re: Okay, mega-absurd posting slump White Flame of Tar Valon - 29/10/2010 04:30:30 PM 1695 Views
Yeah, I was considering imposing a limit. beetnemesis - 29/10/2010 04:56:12 PM 1710 Views
Hrbrlblrb. Kronin al'Sulc - 29/10/2010 05:34:08 PM 1647 Views
Alright, alright Darth_Katie - 29/10/2010 06:06:46 PM 1711 Views
I said I'd wait for him to find another candidate... Fox and Ravens - 29/10/2010 06:15:44 PM 1644 Views
But really. . . Amys - 29/10/2010 06:19:17 PM 1667 Views
This puts him at L-1. Fox and Ravens - 29/10/2010 06:45:05 PM 1808 Views
Re: This puts him at L-1. White Flame of Tar Valon - 29/10/2010 07:28:18 PM 1746 Views
Oh come on! Fox and Ravens - 29/10/2010 07:41:54 PM 1695 Views
It would be great if, in his pettiness, WF forgot he was a bomb. Kronin al'Sulc - 29/10/2010 08:00:26 PM 1745 Views
That would make me chuckle. Hobo - 29/10/2010 08:04:54 PM 1778 Views
Or that he was a Priest . Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2010 09:57:14 PM 1741 Views
Apparently everybody likes option E after all *NM* Isaac - 29/10/2010 07:17:21 PM 917 Views
It was the best option there was. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 29/10/2010 07:59:11 PM 993 Views
That, or we are all very lazy. *NM* Darth_Katie - 29/10/2010 08:45:14 PM 920 Views
I still don't. Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2010 09:55:38 PM 1688 Views
White Flame has been lynched beetnemesis - 30/10/2010 07:10:15 AM 1843 Views
Dang! *NM* Bergioyn - 30/10/2010 09:38:44 AM 976 Views
When do you think Day 2 will start? *NM* Darth_Katie - 31/10/2010 05:44:28 PM 904 Views
Hm... I'd say Tuesdayish beetnemesis - 31/10/2010 05:58:12 PM 1669 Views
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 31/10/2010 07:02:11 PM 960 Views
Sorry for the delay, Day 2 should begin within the next 24 hours beetnemesis - 03/11/2010 01:00:13 AM 1670 Views
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