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Let's do this. BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 08:24:57 PM
At least in part, quick reminder regarding VOTF you only get a pass if I do something that that demonstrably makes me a threat in the current game, so the RC I'm about to make won't qualify.

I can not cast the hammer vote, I will keep whether or not I have anything else secret for now but I can't hammer, I have no restriction (currently) discussing it so I am willing to demonstrate if anyone really demands it. Just to emphasize, this doesn't give a pass on VOTF because I'm claiming a role power that weakens me relative to a Vanilla and hardly proves me town, after all an inability to hammer would be a real good restriction for a scummer if you were worried you'd slightly over-powered them, it's a good role if you want everyone to have something, and it's a good tack on if you want to slightly weaken a power role. Again, not a pass on VOTF, the claim does not meet a reasonable standard of in game threat, and if you don't know what I'm talking about ask, there's not much point having a deterrent if you don't advertise it :P

This isn't really a power, it's really a restriction. It could very easily be put in place to balance some other overpowering ability, for either side. Like, someone one on your team has a double vote, but you can't hammer... or something.

Okay, so what's that tell us? First, it's a strong indicator we are heavily roled, second, while many roles tend to counter-indicate parallel roles being in play, things like mason obviously indicate other masons in play. In my opinion, role effectors do not indicate other role effectors aren't in play and often indicate that others are, so we may easily have other role effecting abilities in play, town, scum, or other. Double voters, vote stealers, negaters, players with lower or higher numbers to lynch, etc. So we're probably role heavy or all roled and we need to keep a sharp eye on the vote record.

Eh, I will have to disagree on the 'strong indicator' bit since we have no proof you are town (a mafia with this ability doesn't tell us much about the town). I also don't know why that knowledge would really help us anyway. We could have some funkiness with the voting, but if it happens, we would be able to detect it.

And I'm probably going to shut up about this because the last time I went down this road, I claimed to be a power role and people lynched me for suggesting I wasn't one earlier in the game (well, to their credit, I really wasn't) :P

A quick sidenote: We've had a strong tendency toward lurking and post-slumping the last few games and we also have the holidays coming up, with finals for our many student players, so we're probably see a lot of RBIRL, we really need everyone to make an effort to stay active to help counteract all the very legitimate absences we'll see this next month, personally I'll be aiming for a faster more reckless style hence RCing in whole or part right away :P

Yeah, I'll try.

Okay, we need questions, but I'm not an anime expert so its hard for me to see the safe areas, we need to pick our phrasing and so I'm going to throw out some questions and ask people to try to find a safe phrasing, the first two should be fine as is but the others will probably need some touching up:

I'm far from an expert myself, so like you, I am not entirely sure what is safe to answer at this point. From what I've surmised, no one has claimed to be an anime-expert yet, so it's possible that even if I accidentally say something I shouldn't, no one would be able to crack the game or anything like that. But I'm going to err on the side of caution and keep this limited.

1. Are you an anime character?

Yes.

2. Are you, yourself, knowledgeable of anime, on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being 'what's anime?' and 10 being the anime equivalent of 'In episode 6, season 2 of Space Trek Captain Smith clearly hits the wrong sequence of keys to talk to the Engineer Murphy on the intercom', in other words, 9-10 would be übergeek with focus on anime.

2. I know what anime is (I think), but don't know anything really. Hopefully understanding the flavor won't be a prerequisite to playing this game well lol (I have no idea what happened in the opening scene)

3. Are you blatantly good or more grey-to-evil?

To preface q's 3-6, let me reiterate that I had to wiki my character/work. It was a fairly lengthy article in it's own right and I haven't read most of it (no time...). So don't kill me just because you happen to know more about my character/series lol
Short(er) answer: Going by wiki, my character's motives are up to the reader's interpretation.

4. Are you mostly human male, or human female, or other?

Male

5. Are you essentially from a 'modern setting'?

I believe so.

6. Is your character basically matched to your abilities? vanilla should yes

Yeah, I'd say so.
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I like answering either/or questions with "yes" - 09/12/2010 10:25:15 PM 1372 Views
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Sure, why not - 10/12/2010 05:07:49 AM 1264 Views
OK, here are my 4 - 10/12/2010 05:42:27 AM 1431 Views
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Alright then - 10/12/2010 02:24:08 PM 1391 Views
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The 4 sources, or the linking to tvtropes? *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 776 Views
Both? I atleast tend to get trapped in tvtropes for hours when someone links a page. *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM 801 Views
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The "Random" button is my downfall. *NM* - 12/12/2010 02:54:55 AM 811 Views
Both. - 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM 1539 Views
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Fixed. If anyone else spots errors, let me know *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:33:08 PM 798 Views
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Thank you for doing the chart by the way *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:44:30 PM 770 Views
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I don't want to lynch our vig though ... - 18/12/2010 04:43:52 PM 1312 Views
Well we have to kill someone - 18/12/2010 07:14:28 PM 1381 Views
Am I missing something? - 19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM 1455 Views
He really isn't. - 19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM 1399 Views
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Okay, I found the discussion. - 19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM 1397 Views
Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch - 19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1359 Views
I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad - 19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM 1231 Views
That is the impression that I got *NM* - 19/12/2010 09:59:20 PM 785 Views
I really don't see Light Yagami as being obviously evil - 19/12/2010 11:24:42 PM 1327 Views
Well, this has been discussed - 19/12/2010 11:50:53 PM 1294 Views
He's the textbook definition of a serial killer. - 20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM 1247 Views
Eh... I guess not. - 20/12/2010 01:36:57 AM 1397 Views
Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 09:45:03 PM 1327 Views
Re: Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 10:12:00 PM 1281 Views
Could be me... - 16/12/2010 10:10:01 PM 1411 Views
Their bell tower? *NM* - 16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM 759 Views
Oh sure - 16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM 1383 Views
... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating. - 18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM 1339 Views
Re: Isaac - 20/12/2010 12:22:16 AM 1390 Views
Apparently it was a good guess - 20/12/2010 04:55:32 AM 1301 Views
Update - 20/12/2010 04:50:48 AM 1363 Views
Well, the claim is certainly believable - 20/12/2010 05:01:38 AM 1314 Views
Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM 1371 Views
Re: Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:59:42 AM 1408 Views
Fair enough. OK, gang, what should we do? - 20/12/2010 02:26:45 PM 1321 Views
Here's wat I'll do: - 20/12/2010 05:01:00 PM 1439 Views
Oy. - 20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM 1333 Views
F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil. - 20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM 1251 Views
I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him? - 20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM 1248 Views
Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight - 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM 1323 Views
Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight. - 21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM 1300 Views
Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me - 21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM 1351 Views
Improbable how? *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM 773 Views
The pieces don't add up - 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM 1369 Views
That's definitely possible. Yeah, I'm keeping my vote up. - 21/12/2010 02:25:28 PM 1537 Views
Well, Death Note is pretty popular. - 21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM 1407 Views
Is it? - 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM 1339 Views
Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff. - 21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM 1294 Views
I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 03:01:43 AM 1249 Views
Re: I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 04:54:37 AM 1333 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it - 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM 1459 Views
That's not what I meant - 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM 1388 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove" - 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM 1387 Views
I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM 1326 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 1267 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM 1429 Views
Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim. - 22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM 1316 Views
I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself" - 22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM 1477 Views
Even then... - 22/12/2010 05:31:14 PM 1323 Views
RBIRL - 21/12/2010 01:27:03 AM 1419 Views
Just popping in. - 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM 1365 Views
Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM 1239 Views
Re: Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1342 Views
I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt - 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM 1320 Views
What error is that? - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM 1361 Views
Re: What error is that? - 22/12/2010 02:47:38 PM 1323 Views
That does make sense. I'll have to think about this. *NM* - 22/12/2010 08:55:01 AM 650 Views
I'm not sure if Light=evil - 21/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1346 Views
Haemophilus influenzae: What are your restrictions? - 22/12/2010 04:06:20 PM 1398 Views
BIRL - 22/12/2010 05:35:23 PM 1430 Views
RBIRL - 22/12/2010 09:08:26 PM 1256 Views
I'm back! - 22/12/2010 11:26:56 PM 1287 Views
This is pretty much how I feel. - 23/12/2010 04:24:34 PM 1291 Views
RBIRL - 23/12/2010 07:58:34 AM 1464 Views
Christmas is the perfect time of the year... for MURDER *NM* - 23/12/2010 02:29:29 PM 780 Views
RBIRL for the rest of the year - 23/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 1328 Views
Probably no surprise but semi-RBIRL - 24/12/2010 02:28:13 PM 1422 Views
Heck, I might as well say it too. RBIRL. - 24/12/2010 03:18:15 PM 1490 Views
Blooooood - 28/12/2010 06:58:25 PM 1350 Views
Blood for the Blood God! - 28/12/2010 08:09:31 PM 1361 Views
All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 1312 Views
I suppose this really is the only realistic option - 28/12/2010 10:15:43 PM 1351 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:08:17 AM 1447 Views
Re: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:49:51 AM 1296 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 09:06:36 AM 1293 Views
If I had a hammer... - 29/12/2010 07:43:54 PM 1376 Views
twilight - 29/12/2010 10:29:14 PM 1576 Views
HAH - 30/12/2010 03:46:01 AM 1488 Views
Sorry for lack of posting - 02/01/2011 06:30:33 AM 2537 Views
Lame. Come back soon! *NM* - 02/01/2011 05:50:29 PM 801 Views
Good luck with your stuff! - 03/01/2011 05:31:49 AM 1356 Views
Like beet and DK said, good luck and come back soon! *NM* - 03/01/2011 09:06:06 PM 684 Views

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