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What error is that? Haemophilus influenzae Send a noteboard - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM
Well, an SK with limited kills is pretty unfair to the SK to begin with. And especially if you knew the number I'm limited to, then it would just be an almost unwinnable role.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
to cover it up.

If I had to put it to probabilities...

If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:

25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK


So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.



Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.


As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.


Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.

(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"

Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
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I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami? - 18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM 1392 Views
I don't want to lynch our vig though ... - 18/12/2010 04:43:52 PM 1357 Views
Well we have to kill someone - 18/12/2010 07:14:28 PM 1421 Views
Am I missing something? - 19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM 1491 Views
He really isn't. - 19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM 1440 Views
Yeah, I was just confused, because we suddenly had a big convo about it - 19/12/2010 03:39:12 PM 1389 Views
Okay, I found the discussion. - 19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM 1439 Views
Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch - 19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1406 Views
I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad - 19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM 1266 Views
That is the impression that I got *NM* - 19/12/2010 09:59:20 PM 804 Views
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Well, this has been discussed - 19/12/2010 11:50:53 PM 1339 Views
He's the textbook definition of a serial killer. - 20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM 1287 Views
Eh... I guess not. - 20/12/2010 01:36:57 AM 1437 Views
Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 09:45:03 PM 1361 Views
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Could be me... - 16/12/2010 10:10:01 PM 1446 Views
Their bell tower? *NM* - 16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM 779 Views
Oh sure - 16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM 1425 Views
... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating. - 18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM 1379 Views
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Apparently it was a good guess - 20/12/2010 04:55:32 AM 1337 Views
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Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM 1412 Views
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Fair enough. OK, gang, what should we do? - 20/12/2010 02:26:45 PM 1354 Views
Here's wat I'll do: - 20/12/2010 05:01:00 PM 1481 Views
Oy. - 20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM 1371 Views
F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil. - 20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM 1280 Views
I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him? - 20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM 1285 Views
Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight - 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM 1360 Views
Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight. - 21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM 1341 Views
Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me - 21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM 1390 Views
Improbable how? *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM 789 Views
The pieces don't add up - 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM 1398 Views
That's definitely possible. Yeah, I'm keeping my vote up. - 21/12/2010 02:25:28 PM 1581 Views
Well, Death Note is pretty popular. - 21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM 1444 Views
Is it? - 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM 1381 Views
Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff. - 21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM 1340 Views
I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 03:01:43 AM 1286 Views
Re: I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 04:54:37 AM 1373 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it - 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM 1496 Views
That's not what I meant - 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM 1426 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove" - 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM 1428 Views
I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM 1360 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 1305 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM 1468 Views
Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim. - 22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM 1357 Views
I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself" - 22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM 1528 Views
Even then... - 22/12/2010 05:31:14 PM 1353 Views
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Just popping in. - 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM 1406 Views
Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM 1278 Views
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I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt - 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM 1366 Views
What error is that? - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM 1397 Views
Re: What error is that? - 22/12/2010 02:47:38 PM 1358 Views
That does make sense. I'll have to think about this. *NM* - 22/12/2010 08:55:01 AM 664 Views
I'm not sure if Light=evil - 21/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1381 Views
Haemophilus influenzae: What are your restrictions? - 22/12/2010 04:06:20 PM 1438 Views
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This is pretty much how I feel. - 23/12/2010 04:24:34 PM 1328 Views
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Christmas is the perfect time of the year... for MURDER *NM* - 23/12/2010 02:29:29 PM 798 Views
RBIRL for the rest of the year - 23/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 1355 Views
Probably no surprise but semi-RBIRL - 24/12/2010 02:28:13 PM 1455 Views
Heck, I might as well say it too. RBIRL. - 24/12/2010 03:18:15 PM 1531 Views
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Blood for the Blood God! - 28/12/2010 08:09:31 PM 1401 Views
All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 1349 Views
I suppose this really is the only realistic option - 28/12/2010 10:15:43 PM 1382 Views
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Lame. Come back soon! *NM* - 02/01/2011 05:50:29 PM 822 Views
Good luck with your stuff! - 03/01/2011 05:31:49 AM 1391 Views
Like beet and DK said, good luck and come back soon! *NM* - 03/01/2011 09:06:06 PM 703 Views

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