Well, an SK with limited kills is pretty unfair to the SK to begin with. And especially if you knew the number I'm limited to, then it would just be an almost unwinnable role.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
to cover it up.
If I had to put it to probabilities...
If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:
25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK
So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.
Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.
As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.
Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.
(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"
If I had to put it to probabilities...
If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:
25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK
So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.
Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.
As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.
Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.
(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"
Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
Mafia game 20 Day One: Hikari to Yami
- 08/12/2010 11:04:35 PM
2750 Views
I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions
- 09/12/2010 01:47:45 PM
1720 Views
Interesting.
- 09/12/2010 07:16:00 PM
1562 Views
Demonstration would be:
- 09/12/2010 07:36:38 PM
1679 Views
That's not a great demonstration
- 09/12/2010 07:55:11 PM
1540 Views
Let's do this.
- 09/12/2010 08:24:57 PM
1881 Views
On a complete wild jump...
- 10/12/2010 04:29:41 AM
1596 Views
He's trying to create a world WITHOUT evil. Don't you know anything!?!
- 10/12/2010 05:44:15 AM
1483 Views
He's failing pretty hard
*NM*
- 10/12/2010 06:52:15 AM
931 Views
*NM*
- 10/12/2010 06:52:15 AM
931 Views
Well, that shouldn't matter anyway for the purposes of the question
- 10/12/2010 07:51:49 AM
1584 Views
I assumed he was kidding.
- 10/12/2010 08:25:38 AM
1569 Views
He does have a certain tragic vilian thing going on
- 10/12/2010 12:02:19 PM
1483 Views
Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil.
- 10/12/2010 06:24:21 PM
1634 Views
Re: Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil.
- 10/12/2010 07:38:42 PM
1562 Views
It's less about his descent into villainy, and more about Light vs. L
- 10/12/2010 08:23:30 PM
1557 Views
Yeah, I was kidding. I agree with what you said
- 10/12/2010 02:32:31 PM
1447 Views
It just means that he's inappropriate.
- 10/12/2010 02:55:25 PM
1519 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions
- 10/12/2010 04:41:44 AM
1507 Views
Hah, me too. Dragonball is honestly terrible...
- 10/12/2010 05:34:00 AM
1481 Views
Ditto on DragonBall-Z
- 10/12/2010 01:06:52 PM
1599 Views
Haha so true
- 10/12/2010 02:24:59 PM
1550 Views
Exactly!
- 10/12/2010 03:49:22 PM
1457 Views
Initial Info (Table)
- 09/12/2010 07:36:31 PM
1572 Views
What's with all these yeses from ranagrande?
- 09/12/2010 08:28:40 PM
1541 Views
So... we have no anime experts here? I think we should all name 4 sources
- 10/12/2010 03:30:45 AM
1501 Views
I was going to agree to this...
- 10/12/2010 06:59:09 AM
1577 Views
I'm going to have to agree. I think I may have said too much, or
- 10/12/2010 07:41:02 AM
1404 Views
This might not be a good idea.
- 10/12/2010 11:54:09 PM
1472 Views
The 4 sources, or the linking to tvtropes? *NM*
- 11/12/2010 10:02:15 PM
857 Views
Both? I atleast tend to get trapped in tvtropes for hours when someone links a page.
*NM*
- 11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM
884 Views
*NM*
- 11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM
884 Views
Glad to know I'm not the only one
- 11/12/2010 10:55:56 PM
1524 Views
A question for Isaac
- 12/12/2010 08:20:35 PM
1529 Views
Re: A question for Isaac
- 12/12/2010 09:28:55 PM
1586 Views
Re: A question for Isaac
- 12/12/2010 10:17:43 PM
1468 Views
RBIRL
- 13/12/2010 05:27:26 AM
1415 Views
Speculations
- 13/12/2010 09:21:04 AM
1487 Views
Why do you think there are multiple factions?
- 13/12/2010 11:23:33 PM
1354 Views
So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing
- 13/12/2010 02:38:24 PM
1570 Views
Re: So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing
- 13/12/2010 03:35:15 PM
1503 Views
It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s!
- 13/12/2010 03:49:24 PM
1470 Views
Re: It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s!
- 13/12/2010 04:17:56 PM
1532 Views
Oddly enough, my name is Daniel
- 13/12/2010 04:24:34 PM
1465 Views
Hmm... I guess I didn't
- 13/12/2010 03:52:18 PM
1501 Views
Damn, they spelled your name wrong on your Social Security card?
- 13/12/2010 06:26:22 PM
1402 Views
I used to write 'Issac' out of finger-memory of typing 'Caasi'
. I think it's better now.
- 13/12/2010 09:25:43 PM
1500 Views
. I think it's better now.
- 13/12/2010 09:25:43 PM
1500 Views
I'm here. But not for long. These next few weeks will be quite busy.
- 13/12/2010 07:16:17 PM
1391 Views
Any thoughts or clues?
- 14/12/2010 10:26:15 PM
1602 Views
Finals suck.
- 15/12/2010 01:36:47 AM
1514 Views
I'm not going to do this.
- 15/12/2010 01:52:13 AM
1511 Views
Sorry, I won't do this.
- 15/12/2010 04:18:00 AM
1396 Views
Fair enough.
- 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM
1558 Views
There's nothing wrong with suggesting it.
- 15/12/2010 04:25:51 AM
1519 Views
How about Isaac? He has shown himself to be pure evil on numerous games!
*NM*
- 15/12/2010 07:48:38 AM
871 Views
*NM*
- 15/12/2010 07:48:38 AM
871 Views
Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info
- 15/12/2010 09:19:07 PM
1469 Views
Re: Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info
- 15/12/2010 10:03:43 PM
1566 Views
Yeah, as of yet we don't know that much about anyone
- 16/12/2010 01:55:59 PM
1512 Views
The GREAT AND POWERFUL INFODUMP (chart)
- 16/12/2010 03:52:55 PM
1524 Views
Mine's wrong
- 16/12/2010 08:39:51 PM
1593 Views
Thank you for doing the chart by the way *NM*
- 16/12/2010 08:44:30 PM
861 Views
Sure. Now we just have to see if it's useful at all...
- 16/12/2010 09:07:27 PM
1520 Views
Not me! I'm not quiet! See? I'm talking! *NM*
- 16/12/2010 09:39:49 PM
744 Views
Not me either!
- 16/12/2010 11:25:31 PM
1519 Views
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
- 17/12/2010 05:39:36 PM
1546 Views
They can take our land!
- 18/12/2010 03:06:47 AM
1646 Views
I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami?
- 18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM
1517 Views
Am I missing something?
- 19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM
1598 Views
He really isn't.
- 19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM
1550 Views
Yeah, I was just confused, because we suddenly had a big convo about it
- 19/12/2010 03:39:12 PM
1492 Views
Okay, I found the discussion.
- 19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM
1539 Views
Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch
- 19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM
1514 Views
I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad
- 19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM
1385 Views
I really don't see Light Yagami as being obviously evil
- 19/12/2010 11:24:42 PM
1471 Views
He's the textbook definition of a serial killer.
- 20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM
1414 Views
3 in 30 days? I could beat that out over a long weekend. *NM*
- 20/12/2010 04:52:22 AM
842 Views
The time limit means there is a cooling period, and rules out crimes of passion. *NM*
- 20/12/2010 05:05:35 PM
871 Views
Their bell tower? *NM*
- 16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM
840 Views
Oh sure
- 16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM
1531 Views
... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating.
- 18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM
1487 Views
It's a rather obscure reference to Charles Whitman, translate as 'going postal'
- 18/12/2010 03:57:17 AM
1550 Views
Oh and I forgot to mention this. I did say that I was from a modern setting. *NM*
- 20/12/2010 01:42:13 AM
765 Views
Update
- 20/12/2010 04:50:48 AM
1535 Views
Hahaha awesome.
- 20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM
1527 Views
Re: Hahaha awesome.
- 20/12/2010 05:59:42 AM
1559 Views
Oy.
- 20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM
1476 Views
F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil.
- 20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM
1382 Views
I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him?
- 20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM
1399 Views
Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight
- 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM
1459 Views
Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight.
- 21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM
1456 Views
Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me
- 21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM
1505 Views
Improbable how? *NM*
- 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM
853 Views
The pieces don't add up
- 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM
1534 Views
Well, Death Note is pretty popular.
- 21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM
1549 Views
Is it?
- 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM
1506 Views
Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff.
- 21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM
1491 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it
- 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM
1605 Views
That's not what I meant
- 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM
1542 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove"
- 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM
1543 Views
I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
- 22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM
1480 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
- 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM
1415 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
- 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM
1592 Views
Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim.
- 22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM
1470 Views
I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself"
- 22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM
1624 Views
Just popping in.
- 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM
1512 Views
Vote for HI!
- 21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM
1387 Views
Re: Vote for HI!
- 21/12/2010 09:21:11 PM
1493 Views
I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt
- 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM
1475 Views
What error is that?
- 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM
1532 Views
Blooooood
- 28/12/2010 06:58:25 PM
1502 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae
- 29/12/2010 12:08:17 AM
1578 Views
Re: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae
- 29/12/2010 12:49:51 AM
1438 Views
Yeah, I just didn't want to appear to be trying to get him lynched wile people aren't around.
- 29/12/2010 04:20:08 AM
1662 Views

Both.