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What error is that? Haemophilus influenzae Send a noteboard - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM
Well, an SK with limited kills is pretty unfair to the SK to begin with. And especially if you knew the number I'm limited to, then it would just be an almost unwinnable role.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
to cover it up.

If I had to put it to probabilities...

If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:

25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK


So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.



Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.


As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.


Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.

(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"

Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
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I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami? - 18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM 1237 Views
I don't want to lynch our vig though ... - 18/12/2010 04:43:52 PM 1184 Views
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Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight - 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM 1204 Views
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Improbable how? *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM 706 Views
The pieces don't add up - 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM 1256 Views
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Is it? - 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM 1211 Views
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I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 03:01:43 AM 1138 Views
Re: I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 04:54:37 AM 1217 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it - 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM 1338 Views
That's not what I meant - 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM 1267 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove" - 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM 1272 Views
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Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 1126 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM 1308 Views
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Even then... - 22/12/2010 05:31:14 PM 1210 Views
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Just popping in. - 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM 1235 Views
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I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt - 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM 1213 Views
What error is that? - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM 1233 Views
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That does make sense. I'll have to think about this. *NM* - 22/12/2010 08:55:01 AM 598 Views
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All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 1185 Views
I suppose this really is the only realistic option - 28/12/2010 10:15:43 PM 1208 Views
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Like beet and DK said, good luck and come back soon! *NM* - 03/01/2011 09:06:06 PM 617 Views

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