First, before anyone bothers mentioning it, we can't hypocop. A person is either alive to say what they did when they claim, or they're dead and we don't know what they were, so HCing serves no purpose except to give the scum a way to pinpoint investigators, as they'd be able to go through the 8 HC's and eliminate not only themselves but usually a little over half the players as possible cops, and the 5-6 remaining townies already provide a tiny pool for them to go fishing in, so knocking that down to 1-3 possible cops for their night 2 NK is a bad idea. That risk is always present but in this small a game it would be an especially big risk and of course would benefit us not at all, since we won't know someone was the cop or tracker or whatever unless they are still alive to tell us anyway. I was tempted to leave that unsaid on the hope a scummer might suggest it, but my brain is always in scummer mode and the immediate mental follow up was "That would be so perfect to frame someone with", and I do think it just as likely if not more likely that a townie would suggest it, as most townies won't give it a second thought where as the scum faction, I think, is likely to have considered HCing, concluded it wold be great if it occurred, and then realized how likely they were to get axed if they suggested it and someone pointed out that HCing in this game would be incredibly anti-town... and in a moment of full disclosure my very next thought was that if that happened and I decided to defend someone who had done it, they might die scum after all and drag me down with them
So, all things considered, I think it best to just point out now that HCing in this game is about as beneficial as tap-dancing on a frozen lake.
Now, the pair of probably bum leads... I don't want to explain the reasoning on this in advance and won't bother to unless they pan out, I just want to check on something, and I don't think there's much advantage to going through with encryption considering the fairly slim odds of this actually working. I just want people to answer this until we get a different answer, and I'm betting we need to do this with exactly two players before writing the plan off, if it pans out, then we can follow up but for now...
Concept of Question: Excluding the poetry in your RM, that is, only the text dealing with your alignment and role, count the number of times the letter T as in Tango and E as in Echo appear. Subtract the T's from the E's and respond with that value to this message.
Example: You are a vanilla and win with the town
E appears once, T appears thrice, you'd reply negative two, -2
Example 2: "There must be some kind of way out of here," Said the joker to the thief, "There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.
E appears 15 times, T appears 10, so 5.
Yes it's a touch roundabout and there is a certain element of risk to people exposing they have very long messages and thus might be a role, I picked T and E as basically the "Wheel of Fortune" letters of choice, and likely to have a relatively low difference, they also don't appear in 'vanilla', 'cop', 'mafia', 'scum' or 'doc'
Basically, I would like everyone to do that, but I want everyone to pick different letters of their own choosing, just 1) Make it clear which they picked, 2) Promise to throughly double-check their answer, and 3) Make sure you don't include your poem, title, name, date, etc just the RM text, so a reply like:
R - L = 6
Would be just fine by me, it's a touch of extra work but minimizes the chance of damage, as everyone can pick their own letters. I'd prefer everyone just answer up quickly on a first come first serve basis and without discussing this much. In all probability nothing will comes of this, but it is something I want to rule out now and preferably tonight, and do so without endangering anyone. So the summarized question is:
Pick two letters of your choosing, count how many times each appears in the role and victory condition piece of your RM, then post in reply to this message what those two letters were and which you subtracted from the other and what the number was, please do not discuss and please double-check your count carefully.
... and in all likelihood after the first couple people respond I'll interrupt and say 'waste of time, thanks'
So, all things considered, I think it best to just point out now that HCing in this game is about as beneficial as tap-dancing on a frozen lake.Now, the pair of probably bum leads... I don't want to explain the reasoning on this in advance and won't bother to unless they pan out, I just want to check on something, and I don't think there's much advantage to going through with encryption considering the fairly slim odds of this actually working. I just want people to answer this until we get a different answer, and I'm betting we need to do this with exactly two players before writing the plan off, if it pans out, then we can follow up but for now...
Concept of Question: Excluding the poetry in your RM, that is, only the text dealing with your alignment and role, count the number of times the letter T as in Tango and E as in Echo appear. Subtract the T's from the E's and respond with that value to this message.
Example: You are a vanilla and win with the town
E appears once, T appears thrice, you'd reply negative two, -2
Example 2: "There must be some kind of way out of here," Said the joker to the thief, "There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.
E appears 15 times, T appears 10, so 5.
Yes it's a touch roundabout and there is a certain element of risk to people exposing they have very long messages and thus might be a role, I picked T and E as basically the "Wheel of Fortune" letters of choice, and likely to have a relatively low difference, they also don't appear in 'vanilla', 'cop', 'mafia', 'scum' or 'doc'
Basically, I would like everyone to do that, but I want everyone to pick different letters of their own choosing, just 1) Make it clear which they picked, 2) Promise to throughly double-check their answer, and 3) Make sure you don't include your poem, title, name, date, etc just the RM text, so a reply like:
R - L = 6
Would be just fine by me, it's a touch of extra work but minimizes the chance of damage, as everyone can pick their own letters. I'd prefer everyone just answer up quickly on a first come first serve basis and without discussing this much. In all probability nothing will comes of this, but it is something I want to rule out now and preferably tonight, and do so without endangering anyone. So the summarized question is:
Pick two letters of your choosing, count how many times each appears in the role and victory condition piece of your RM, then post in reply to this message what those two letters were and which you subtracted from the other and what the number was, please do not discuss and please double-check your count carefully.
... and in all likelihood after the first couple people respond I'll interrupt and say 'waste of time, thanks'
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Game 24, Day 2 - Game has ended
- 06/11/2011 06:04:27 PM
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I'm actually a bit surprised by the choice of ?
- 06/11/2011 07:34:57 PM
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I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
- 07/11/2011 12:43:21 AM
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Re: I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
- 07/11/2011 12:57:32 AM
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... and the two things
- 07/11/2011 01:29:31 AM
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UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 02:59:27 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 06:23:42 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 08:17:53 PM
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Wait, would everyone be picking their own two letters? Ah, ok, it's not as dangerous as I thought
- 07/11/2011 08:20:32 PM
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no *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:19:20 PM
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FT already banned it *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:20:45 PM
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Vote: ?
- 07/11/2011 02:33:43 PM
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He could have just been being polite
- 07/11/2011 06:34:30 PM
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Very good point, I think a roleclaim from ?, using Kronin's coded roleclaim from yesterday
- 07/11/2011 08:22:45 PM
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? can't decode Kronin's RC, and he wouldn't be allowed to give his own
- 07/11/2011 08:45:50 PM
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yeah I could go ahead and roleclaim if you want...
- 07/11/2011 08:56:41 PM
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No, I don't want you to claim
- 07/11/2011 08:57:47 PM
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Wait what's the difference?
- 07/11/2011 09:06:06 PM
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is this gonna turn into that game where i got lynched thrice in one game but for ? instead?
- 07/11/2011 10:24:15 PM
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Anybody else get a chuckle out of this? *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:36:28 PM
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out of what? *NM*
- 07/11/2011 07:51:06 PM
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you have to go into the messege like i said ignore the *NM* prompt *NM*
- 07/11/2011 08:54:22 PM
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Shrug, I think we should still get a roleclaim from ?/Kronin
- 08/11/2011 01:51:24 PM
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I coded a claim above...in response to Isaac I think...
- 08/11/2011 08:46:07 PM
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Vote: Beetnemesis
- 09/11/2011 10:24:06 PM
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Bah, now I have to claim as well
- 09/11/2011 10:46:37 PM
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decoding:
- 09/11/2011 11:22:31 PM
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Would you mind walking through that last step?
- 09/11/2011 11:44:30 PM
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Hmm...You mention me a lot in that post...Was that me as ? or me as Kronin? I'm a tad confused.
- 09/11/2011 11:28:55 PM
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Is or Is Not a Cop (Table)
- 10/11/2011 12:52:52 AM
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I'm the daycop. Vote: Ranagrande.
- 10/11/2011 01:41:59 AM
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EBWOP: here's the code.
- 10/11/2011 01:43:00 AM
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EBWOP again
- 10/11/2011 01:44:04 AM
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Stand by for the moment
- 10/11/2011 01:49:38 AM
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Jesus...I REALLY need to read everything before I start posting.
- 10/11/2011 01:54:11 AM
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Add to that the next follow up, that ? might previously have been a Day Cop too
- 10/11/2011 02:04:29 AM
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I am a daycop. I found Isaac innocent. *NM*
- 10/11/2011 02:02:05 PM
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We still need you role decode *NM*
- 10/11/2011 06:19:53 PM
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i am a cop
- 10/11/2011 07:00:14 PM
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Ah, I was wondering how come there was suddenly thirty new posts in this thread.
- 10/11/2011 03:02:10 AM
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Hahaha I have to read all of these posts, but FT, you're insane.
- 10/11/2011 01:58:01 PM
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I think it's time to consider mass RC
- 10/11/2011 08:15:36 PM
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Sure...
- 10/11/2011 09:19:49 PM
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There's a lot of options still, and decode confirmed by the way
- 10/11/2011 09:48:05 PM
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The wasy I see it, anybody not claiming cop is going to get lynched
- 10/11/2011 11:57:24 PM
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Lying and claiming cop when you can't decode your RC will get you lynched faster. *NM*
- 11/11/2011 12:33:05 AM
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Fox, did you get a response on your investigation? *NM*
- 11/11/2011 12:20:12 AM
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I hadn't performed one yet.
- 11/11/2011 12:34:48 AM
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I'll investigate ? because yuna's the other daycop
- 11/11/2011 04:00:49 AM
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Wait a minute....I meant that I would be testing it against rana. Not yuna
- 11/11/2011 01:39:16 PM
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It kinda seems like Hieshyn and ? are our logical lynch targets, plus Cop (Table)
- 11/11/2011 10:09:52 PM
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Vote: ?
- 11/11/2011 10:46:43 PM
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I'm down with voting for ?, as long as everyone is clear on what our night actions should be
- 12/11/2011 04:49:53 AM
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Game ends.
- 14/11/2011 10:25:04 PM
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Role list:
- 14/11/2011 10:26:32 PM
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Jeeez.
- 14/11/2011 11:43:47 PM
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Kronin originally RC as a Tracker so we might have done better if we had been able to continue *NM*
- 15/11/2011 12:06:07 AM
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Also I would like to be added to the list of future Moderator
- 15/11/2011 12:07:51 AM
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You'd have first dibs via our order of precedence system
- 15/11/2011 02:05:04 AM
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Also whoever Mods should probably post a recruitment thread on some other NBs
- 15/11/2011 02:50:02 AM
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I expect my next game to draw in some new players.
- 15/11/2011 02:58:59 AM
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More is better, okay that would be Hieshyn or Beet then, unless ? wants to toss in
- 15/11/2011 03:26:25 AM
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I don't have anything prepared, so if Hieshyn wants it, I'll be happy to go after him
- 15/11/2011 03:28:40 AM
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I'm not ready to go next
- 15/11/2011 02:43:07 PM
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Aight, I think it's me then.
- 15/11/2011 03:15:21 PM
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ooooh
- 15/11/2011 11:27:26 PM
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Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding
- 15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM
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Yeah, I really didn't like that idea.
- 15/11/2011 02:58:21 AM
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An informal agreement is probably the way to go then
- 15/11/2011 03:08:17 AM
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Although really, it's the same as if in IRL everyone just wrote down their role on a piece of paper
- 15/11/2011 03:28:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think it warrants being banned (hence why I didn't), but I don't like it. *NM*
- 15/11/2011 03:37:59 AM
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