Hieshyn, the game revolves around accusing people of lying because one of the teams has to lie a lot to have a chance to win, even if it's in the Aes Sedai fashion I tend to favor. That's why at the top of the original rules it always stressed not getting heated as accusations fly. I've been accused of deceit more than any other player in this game, I don't take it personally, and the charge is fair, as I have often built very solid cases off accusing someone of being dishonest when I knew for a fact that they were being truthful. The game requires people accuse and often frame each other. I certainly am not going to apologize for doing that and I do continue to suspect you of lying and having ulterior motives for objecting to not doing the poems. I found nothing compelling about your arguments against doing so. But as I've already said, in the very message that seems to have set your teeth on edge, I don't see a compelling case to lynch you, and considering it wont' kill you just strip your vote I don't think the weight of evidence needed to be all that compelling.
As to your other... why would your not writing poetry normally make me think you might not have written it? I wrote one, and I don't like poetry and certainly don't consider myself a decent poet. I imagine I have more words put to electronic page then you do, and I most of the times I mention poetry its to say I don't care for it and don't tend to get it. So why would I think your own aversion to poetry an automatic dis-qualifier when I submitted one?
As to your other... why would your not writing poetry normally make me think you might not have written it? I wrote one, and I don't like poetry and certainly don't consider myself a decent poet. I imagine I have more words put to electronic page then you do, and I most of the times I mention poetry its to say I don't care for it and don't tend to get it. So why would I think your own aversion to poetry an automatic dis-qualifier when I submitted one?
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Mafia XXV: Day 2
- 29/01/2012 04:30:46 PM
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Poetry Contest Round 2: Acrostic
- 29/01/2012 04:35:41 PM
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Acrostic? *NM*
- 29/01/2012 08:00:23 PM
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The first letter of each line makes either a word or phrase. *NM*
- 29/01/2012 11:31:56 PM
716 Views
So are Praz and White Flame still around? Can they talk? *NM*
- 30/01/2012 12:47:08 AM
972 Views
Yep
- 30/01/2012 02:20:09 PM
1375 Views
Do you get a vote? *NM*
- 30/01/2012 02:27:26 PM
912 Views
Re: Do you get a vote?
- 30/01/2012 07:27:19 PM
1202 Views
I seem to recall that you can purchase obligators with Atium.
- 30/01/2012 10:53:36 PM
1451 Views
AFAIK, I'm still here and good to go.
- 30/01/2012 10:14:11 PM
1415 Views
No night messages or anything? I guess that's to be expected
- 31/01/2012 03:48:58 AM
1476 Views
I suppose this won't hurt to say: I was a judge of the poetry contest.
- 31/01/2012 04:18:42 AM
1317 Views
Judged as well- sounds like most if not all of us did
- 01/02/2012 01:53:36 PM
1483 Views
Actually I think we should get a list of everyone who entered or didn't
- 01/02/2012 03:27:36 PM
1395 Views
****Follow up**** (Table)
- 02/02/2012 04:24:30 PM
1429 Views
I'm just going to say I highly doubt the contest has anything to do with anything.
- 03/02/2012 12:29:32 AM
1422 Views
Hieshyn, Stephen, I'd really like your answers on this
- 04/02/2012 08:14:10 PM
1449 Views
I gave my response
- 05/02/2012 04:59:28 PM
1366 Views
D'oh! Sorry, Vote: Hieshyn
- 05/02/2012 05:01:26 PM
1183 Views
You want to lynch him?
- 05/02/2012 06:55:12 PM
1309 Views
If he doesn't answer up, but we may as well move on
- 05/02/2012 07:50:02 PM
1393 Views
Hm, ok
- 06/02/2012 01:21:00 AM
1421 Views
Okay
- 06/02/2012 02:07:01 AM
1442 Views
Re: Okay
- 06/02/2012 03:32:36 AM
1402 Views
the 3 was a mistake
- 06/02/2012 06:12:48 PM
1404 Views
We need you to verify all 4 then
- 06/02/2012 08:35:18 PM
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Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
- 06/02/2012 11:25:34 PM
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Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
- 07/02/2012 04:03:57 AM
1576 Views
Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
- 07/02/2012 08:03:40 PM
1359 Views
Thanks, one was enough
- 07/02/2012 09:43:41 PM
1381 Views
- 07/02/2012 09:43:41 PM
1381 Views
Day 2 Auctions
- 05/02/2012 10:37:13 PM
1384 Views
Iron Mine: .1 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 02:00:12 PM
932 Views
Mine .2 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 03:20:35 PM
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Mine 0.4 *NM*
- 12/02/2012 04:55:22 AM
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Mine 0.5 *NM*
- 13/02/2012 08:45:51 PM
893 Views
Mine 0.81 *NM*
- 13/02/2012 09:13:56 PM
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Mine 0.9 *NM*
- 13/02/2012 09:14:49 PM
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Mine 1.17 *NM*
- 13/02/2012 10:09:52 PM
812 Views
Mine 1.2 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 01:17:36 AM
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Mine 1.26 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 01:37:51 AM
897 Views
Mine 1.3 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 03:04:09 AM
851 Views
Mine 1.4 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:00:17 AM
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Mine 1.5 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:07:58 AM
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Mine 1.8 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:31:38 AM
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Mine: 2.0 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:34:49 AM
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Shop: .1 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 02:00:55 PM
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Shop: .28 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 10:38:55 PM
954 Views
Shop .4
- 07/02/2012 04:16:55 PM
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Shop .45 *NM*
- 09/02/2012 05:15:34 AM
905 Views
Shop .5 *NM*
- 09/02/2012 01:33:29 PM
803 Views
Shop .7 *NM*
- 09/02/2012 02:12:49 PM
845 Views
Shop .8 --> I want my freedom =( *NM*
- 09/02/2012 02:42:27 PM
937 Views
Shop .91 *NM*
- 11/02/2012 09:33:23 PM
926 Views
Shop 1.0 *NM*
- 11/02/2012 10:27:12 PM
893 Views
Re: Shop 1.01 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 01:03:41 AM
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Shop 1.1 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 01:45:47 AM
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Shop 1.2 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:01:05 AM
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Shop 1.22 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:18:09 AM
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Shop 1.53 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:37:35 AM
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Shop 1.6 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 02:27:54 PM
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Shop 1.62 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 06:27:18 PM
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Shop 2.3 *NM*
- 16/02/2012 12:21:01 AM
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Shop 2.31 *NM*
- 18/02/2012 05:15:53 PM
825 Views
Shop 2.56578443992021083401 *NM*
- 19/02/2012 03:44:52 AM
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Shop 2.56578443992021083402
- 19/02/2012 05:38:55 AM
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Slave: .1 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 02:01:26 PM
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Slave .3 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 03:21:08 PM
925 Views
Slave .35 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 10:38:31 PM
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Slave .5 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 10:42:16 PM
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Slave .81 *NM*
- 07/02/2012 12:19:48 AM
924 Views
Well, now you're just being a jerk
. Slave: 1 *NM*
- 07/02/2012 08:42:16 PM
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. Slave: 1 *NM*
- 07/02/2012 08:42:16 PM
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Slave: 1.15 *NM*
- 09/02/2012 02:35:32 PM
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Slave: 1.3 *NM*
- 11/02/2012 05:42:33 PM
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Slave: 1.4 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 03:03:53 AM
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Slave: 1.5 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 03:57:59 AM
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Slave: 1.6 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:07:33 AM
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Slave: 1.75 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:35:34 AM
863 Views
Slave: 2.0 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:36:14 AM
868 Views
I think we're hammered *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:40:36 AM
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Slave: 2.1 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 02:28:24 PM
930 Views
Slave: 2.2 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:51:40 PM
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Slave: 2.3 I'm curious about those extra actions, dammit! *NM*
- 14/02/2012 07:53:03 PM
796 Views
Slave 2.4... what extra actions?
- 15/02/2012 12:38:36 AM
1179 Views
Slave 2.5 well, "other potential effects," then
- 15/02/2012 03:50:54 AM
1212 Views
Slave: 2.51
- 21/02/2012 11:18:02 PM
1431 Views
Slave: 2.6- don't you want to be slave-buddies?
- 24/02/2012 04:30:54 PM
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Slave: 2.7 you have no idea how ironic that is
*NM*
- 02/03/2012 02:50:25 AM
806 Views
*NM*
- 02/03/2012 02:50:25 AM
806 Views
Slave: 2.8 the only way I'll know is with a slave! *NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:29:47 AM
824 Views
Slave: 2.9 but I think Stephen already hammered
*NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:31:13 AM
896 Views
*NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:31:13 AM
896 Views
Slave: 3.0 yeah, I'm on my phone, so I bid before seeing. And am bidding now just in case! *NM*
- 03/03/2012 02:41:31 AM
744 Views
Tin Misting: .1 *NM*
- 06/02/2012 02:02:48 PM
922 Views
Tin Misting: .2 *NM*
- 09/02/2012 04:36:38 AM
920 Views
Tin Misting: .201 *NM*
- 13/02/2012 09:16:03 PM
865 Views
Re: Tin Misting: .202 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 01:04:35 AM
975 Views
Tin Misting: .4 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 03:58:52 AM
879 Views
Yes, I will. Tin Misting : .5 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 04:15:15 AM
952 Views
Tin Misting : .7 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 02:28:47 PM
862 Views
Tin Misting : .8 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 02:43:32 PM
918 Views
Tin Misting : .9 *NM*
- 14/02/2012 07:53:48 PM
758 Views
Tin Misting : .91 *NM*
- 18/02/2012 05:14:15 PM
997 Views
Tin Misting : .95 *NM*
- 24/02/2012 04:31:03 PM
792 Views
No posts and no beer make beetnemesis something something
- 10/02/2012 03:07:53 PM
1546 Views
I'd have no problem - at all - with lynching Hieshyn.
- 10/02/2012 06:55:30 PM
1232 Views
I say we go for it
- 11/02/2012 04:57:52 PM
1422 Views
I expect him to get modkilled for inactivity.
- 11/02/2012 06:18:41 PM
1458 Views
Okay I guess I might as well say what I did last night...
- 10/02/2012 08:14:46 PM
1412 Views
Re: Okay I guess I might as well say what I did last night...
- 11/02/2012 01:57:48 PM
1408 Views
It doesn't implicate anyone...
- 11/02/2012 06:05:36 PM
1412 Views
Hmm
- 11/02/2012 06:22:31 PM
1365 Views
Erm... what is this about?
- 11/02/2012 06:24:42 PM
1352 Views
Nothing was happening...we needed information...
- 11/02/2012 10:36:21 PM
1285 Views
Hmm.
- 12/02/2012 03:04:00 AM
1446 Views
I didn't get anything
- 12/02/2012 04:54:53 AM
1405 Views
So neither of you got any flavour text regarding your night action/being targeted by a night action?
- 12/02/2012 05:38:53 AM
1340 Views
I got nothing.
- 12/02/2012 05:43:52 AM
1396 Views
^^OK yeah, so
- 13/02/2012 02:18:41 AM
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Re: ^^OK yeah, so
- 13/02/2012 02:48:09 AM
1422 Views
Hah, I think it's funny that we didn't confirm until right now who was NK'd
- 13/02/2012 03:49:30 AM
1332 Views
I'd actually assumed this was the meaning.
- 13/02/2012 05:15:41 AM
1447 Views
But I soothed him into inactivity.
- 13/02/2012 08:42:51 PM
1343 Views
Right
- 13/02/2012 09:13:21 PM
1337 Views
ooh so you were roleblocked AND nightkilled? *NM*
- 14/02/2012 09:14:07 PM
946 Views
Mob justice or get off the pot
- 13/02/2012 02:18:57 PM
1431 Views
Re: Mob justice or get off the pot
- 14/02/2012 01:47:36 AM
1406 Views
Cool. Vote: Hieshyn *NM*
- 14/02/2012 03:54:36 AM
780 Views
Hmmm. . . . .
- 14/02/2012 05:16:41 AM
1461 Views
This kinda sums up the impression i"m getting reading through these.
- 14/02/2012 09:43:13 PM
1412 Views
Re: This kinda sums up the impression i"m getting reading through these.
- 14/02/2012 10:14:04 PM
1382 Views
Votes?
- 14/02/2012 05:45:22 AM
1319 Views
Technically, that's only 4 real votes, unless some people have extras. *NM*
- 14/02/2012 05:46:43 AM
870 Views
Sorry, my real life was incredibly busy
- 14/02/2012 09:29:53 PM
1473 Views
Unvote: Hieshyn... now we get to track down who was lying
- 15/02/2012 12:34:25 AM
1516 Views
That's pretty useless...
- 15/02/2012 01:36:14 AM
1310 Views
OK so I'm guessing you want me to encode shit
- 16/02/2012 12:19:22 AM
1433 Views
Nope, no encoding. I'll explain:
- 16/02/2012 01:17:58 AM
1251 Views
Wound, Luthadel, Mistborn, wood *NM*
- 17/02/2012 11:51:56 PM
858 Views
Heh, everybody uses 'Wood'
- 19/02/2012 05:11:57 AM
1462 Views
How much trouble would I be in if all the poems were here in full?
- 19/02/2012 11:01:24 PM
1481 Views
Probably only for modquoting, I think.
- 20/02/2012 05:11:51 AM
1346 Views
Sorry I disappeared for a bit there and am still semi-RBIRL
- 21/02/2012 04:24:32 AM
1334 Views
I explicitly said during Day 1 I have never read the series
- 21/02/2012 06:43:49 PM
1377 Views
So I suppose what I'm trying to say
- 21/02/2012 07:37:18 PM
1533 Views
Ha, let's lynch Stephen
- 21/02/2012 10:43:11 PM
1307 Views
I don't know
- 21/02/2012 11:11:58 PM
1356 Views
No reason for what now?
- 22/02/2012 11:39:27 PM
1735 Views
As for this...
- 23/02/2012 10:05:52 AM
1358 Views
Just because F-T says he isn't guilty doesn't mean he isn't
- 22/02/2012 11:53:07 PM
1578 Views
Yes, this has been brought up
- 23/02/2012 09:18:00 AM
1394 Views
Upon reading the poems initially...
- 23/02/2012 03:00:11 PM
1435 Views
Re: Upon reading the poems initially...
- 23/02/2012 03:07:46 PM
1364 Views
If it was written by scum, I doubt they knew that everyone would get to read it.
- 23/02/2012 05:35:07 PM
1654 Views
If it was written by scum, I doubt they knew that everyone would get to read it.
- 23/02/2012 05:35:09 PM
1617 Views
Re: Upon reading the poems initially...
- 23/02/2012 06:06:29 PM
1322 Views
At this pointit seems unlikely, since theylied about it.
- 23/02/2012 06:40:34 PM
1366 Views
True.
- 23/02/2012 11:02:24 PM
1364 Views
That's possible, in which case I still think he's scum. Just not lynchable scum
.
- 24/02/2012 02:39:44 AM
1473 Views
.
- 24/02/2012 02:39:44 AM
1473 Views
Hey Lord Ruler
- 21/02/2012 07:14:01 PM
1328 Views
Ya know, I'm probably going to regret suggesting this but...
- 23/02/2012 07:03:59 PM
1395 Views
What exactly do we have to gain from a no-lynch?
- 23/02/2012 08:32:31 PM
1635 Views
Mostly just an end to the day
- 23/02/2012 09:42:18 PM
1375 Views
You raise an intriguing question.
- 24/02/2012 02:46:57 AM
1425 Views
Re: You raise an intriguing question.
- 24/02/2012 10:26:21 AM
1629 Views
Re: You raise an intriguing question.
- 24/02/2012 12:27:01 PM
1463 Views
Re: You raise an intriguing question.
- 24/02/2012 08:06:49 PM
1173 Views
Re: You raise an intriguing question.
- 24/02/2012 08:16:28 PM
1402 Views
... *NM*
- 25/02/2012 02:05:00 AM
917 Views
Vote: ? *NM*
- 26/02/2012 07:52:49 PM
906 Views
You are trying to vote for yourself? *NM*
- 26/02/2012 09:44:09 PM
889 Views
Yes. I was bored. No one had posted in a long time. Thus. Sorry. *NM*
- 26/02/2012 09:50:25 PM
926 Views
Right, get a move on people.
- 28/02/2012 08:22:51 AM
1364 Views
I don't think we can re-lynch White Flame, can we? *NM*
- 28/02/2012 03:04:41 PM
923 Views
No new ideas so let's lynch the guy who was quiet for two weeks and came back with a vengence
- 02/03/2012 12:47:55 AM
1739 Views
I'm sorry.
- 02/03/2012 01:53:03 AM
1384 Views
This is exactly the problem I have with Mafia in general (OOC)
- 02/03/2012 02:06:17 AM
1850 Views
At my count (Votes)
- 02/03/2012 02:13:56 AM
1713 Views
Oh, and Fox and Ravens voted for Whiteflame *NM*
- 02/03/2012 02:14:59 AM
1039 Views
Can you make a case on anyone else?
- 02/03/2012 03:36:28 AM
1308 Views
Vote: Hieshyn
- 02/03/2012 06:50:08 PM
1714 Views
You're still not dead, Yuna unvoted you an hour ago
- 02/03/2012 07:18:50 PM
1473 Views
- 02/03/2012 07:18:50 PM
1473 Views
son of a bitch i never get to hammer
*NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:31:10 AM
1113 Views
*NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:31:10 AM
1113 Views
Well, to save time since you're not really dead-dead, town or scum? *NM*
- 03/03/2012 12:32:04 AM
894 Views
Day 2 has ended.
- 05/03/2012 10:30:17 PM
1162 Views
New job?
- 06/03/2012 12:08:53 AM
1307 Views
So am I now dead-dead in this deathless game of mafia? *NM*
- 08/03/2012 12:58:57 AM
1084 Views
That's the same PM WF got, he's still in, you probably will be too *NM*
- 08/03/2012 05:33:25 AM
946 Views
I'm thinking about calling this one, either way though I'm out.
- 02/04/2012 01:26:30 AM
1501 Views
Yeah, i've been tempted to say I'm out for a while too.
- 03/04/2012 02:01:52 AM
1323 Views
My friend just got a programming job in which the whole company plays Diplomacy
- 03/04/2012 02:17:41 AM
1161 Views
Re: My friend just got a programming job in which the whole company plays Diplomacy
- 03/04/2012 03:34:47 AM
1430 Views
Yeah, I only have the barest hints, but I got the impression that it could be done online *NM*
- 03/04/2012 02:44:41 PM
976 Views
If rana doesn't think a backup mod would work, then...
- 03/04/2012 02:18:51 AM
1391 Views
Yeah
- 03/04/2012 04:41:08 AM
1351 Views
Me too.
- 03/04/2012 06:39:40 AM
1333 Views
Heh
- 05/04/2012 01:28:24 AM
1346 Views
Looks good, but I can't fully judge without knowing the lore behind it
.
- 05/04/2012 07:05:08 AM
1473 Views
.
- 05/04/2012 07:05:08 AM
1473 Views
me too, its allright to post it now? *NM*
- 05/04/2012 08:19:25 PM
853 Views
Yeah, I mean it's not like you're gonna get modkilled, right? *NM*
- 05/04/2012 08:54:48 PM
953 Views
Yeah...
- 08/04/2012 04:49:10 AM
1333 Views
For the record, I was scum
- 09/04/2012 03:33:12 PM
1659 Views
Re: For the record, I was scum
- 10/04/2012 04:19:20 AM
1386 Views

*NM*
it. Vote: Hieshyn