I still think Ranagrande is the best choice, but I could easily be persuaded otherwise.
Darth_Katie Send a noteboard - 23/10/2012 04:37:49 AM
I think it's probably fairly safe to assume that both Yuna and Taiga have claimed true. Both Jonathan and Angel are pretty reasonable character choices for this game, and I think it would be incredibly risky to falsely claim one of them on the off chance that someone else was that character for real. It's always possible that one or the other of them is lying, but right now I'm going to operate from the assumption that they are not.
So let's evaluate, starting with Angel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)
Within the context of this game, Angel is an interesting choice because when he's good he's very very good, but when he's bad he's horrid. By which I mean straight up murdering people for kicks and giggles. You can read all about him on Wikipedia if you'd like, but the gist of it is that Angel was a super evil vampire who got "cursed" with a soul, which turned him good. So then he was super good for a while, but then he broke the curse by experiencing a moment of true happiness by doin' it with Buffy and he turned super, super evil again. And then she killed him, and then he came back and had a soul again, and then he got his own tv show where he ran a private investigation firm or something. So the First Evil's quote about shifting people backward or forward in time to make them more "fun" fits PERFECTLY with Angel's on/off switch mortality thing. He's honestly the first character I thought of.
Now Jonathan is an interesting character because while he is also morally ambiguous he's not nearly as evil as Angel. But he's never anywhere as good as Angel either. Jonathan is a regular human kid who gets mixed up in some bad stuff. He spends the first couple of seasons being the wimpy kid butt of the jokes type thing, but he learns some magic and starts causing trouble. In Season 6 he joins up with these two other nerdly types to take over Sunnydale. Full disclaimer: I have only watched halfway through Season 6, so while I didn't actually see how it ends, it's on Wikipedia. Anyway, the three of them end up killing a girl on accident, and Jonathan is the only one who feels bad and more or less turns good, even though he was a pretty shitty bad guy in the first place. And then he dies in Season 7, and that's pretty much it. So while I have a harder time imagining Jonathan as a mafiascum type evil person, he did spend a fair bit of screen time as an antagonist, and plotted to kill Buffy at least a little bit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Levinson
So while Jonathan was definitely not ever a Scooby and Angel definitely was, Jonathan was never as mustache-twirlingly-evil as souless Angel. Both have the potential to be roled, both have the potential to be scum. That's all I've got.
So let's evaluate, starting with Angel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)
Within the context of this game, Angel is an interesting choice because when he's good he's very very good, but when he's bad he's horrid. By which I mean straight up murdering people for kicks and giggles. You can read all about him on Wikipedia if you'd like, but the gist of it is that Angel was a super evil vampire who got "cursed" with a soul, which turned him good. So then he was super good for a while, but then he broke the curse by experiencing a moment of true happiness by doin' it with Buffy and he turned super, super evil again. And then she killed him, and then he came back and had a soul again, and then he got his own tv show where he ran a private investigation firm or something. So the First Evil's quote about shifting people backward or forward in time to make them more "fun" fits PERFECTLY with Angel's on/off switch mortality thing. He's honestly the first character I thought of.
Now Jonathan is an interesting character because while he is also morally ambiguous he's not nearly as evil as Angel. But he's never anywhere as good as Angel either. Jonathan is a regular human kid who gets mixed up in some bad stuff. He spends the first couple of seasons being the wimpy kid butt of the jokes type thing, but he learns some magic and starts causing trouble. In Season 6 he joins up with these two other nerdly types to take over Sunnydale. Full disclaimer: I have only watched halfway through Season 6, so while I didn't actually see how it ends, it's on Wikipedia. Anyway, the three of them end up killing a girl on accident, and Jonathan is the only one who feels bad and more or less turns good, even though he was a pretty shitty bad guy in the first place. And then he dies in Season 7, and that's pretty much it. So while I have a harder time imagining Jonathan as a mafiascum type evil person, he did spend a fair bit of screen time as an antagonist, and plotted to kill Buffy at least a little bit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Levinson
So while Jonathan was definitely not ever a Scooby and Angel definitely was, Jonathan was never as mustache-twirlingly-evil as souless Angel. Both have the potential to be roled, both have the potential to be scum. That's all I've got.
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Mafia 29: Welcome to the Mafiamouth
17/09/2012 09:39:34 AM
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So, anyone familiar with Buffy? I haven't watched it. *NM*
17/09/2012 09:44:26 AM
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Not I.
17/09/2012 12:53:07 PM
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just googled my character too. I know who I am at least
what's the next step? *NM*
18/09/2012 04:35:19 PM
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ok so, how should we approach this?
17/09/2012 07:24:45 PM
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What's a ten questions thing? *NM*
18/09/2012 12:07:56 AM
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Probably means that random of 10 or 2 of pick thing we did some games back
18/09/2012 05:51:54 AM
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that's the one
18/09/2012 05:43:32 PM
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I agree.
18/09/2012 11:43:52 PM
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Me too.
19/09/2012 03:04:30 AM
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Perhaps we should lay out some ground rules
19/09/2012 03:37:02 AM
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I'm fine with this as long as the rules are clear
19/09/2012 08:29:42 AM
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Hi all. RBIRLish. *NM*
18/09/2012 12:55:02 AM
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Yeah, tell me about it
18/09/2012 05:53:23 AM
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You working on the campaign? *NM*
18/09/2012 01:00:49 PM
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Sadly yes *NM*
19/09/2012 04:06:51 AM
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Which side, if you don't mind me asking? *NM*
19/09/2012 05:01:22 AM
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Question Time, with your host:...
19/09/2012 08:16:22 PM
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Aqui.
19/09/2012 09:07:00 PM
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Too vague, I think. *NM*
20/09/2012 12:43:03 AM
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Thought as much...
20/09/2012 02:14:21 AM
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How about "Were you ever featured in the title sequence?"
20/09/2012 02:45:15 AM
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But how are those of us who haven't seen the show going to answer that?
20/09/2012 07:08:52 AM
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As a certain RPG mod once told me
20/09/2012 07:42:06 AM
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just googled the title-list of all 7 seasons
20/09/2012 09:01:40 AM
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But that's exactly my question, so no added benefit
20/09/2012 09:25:33 AM
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That's what I meant.
21/09/2012 12:22:06 AM
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I like Stephen's question below a lot better though, so I say we go with that. *NM*
21/09/2012 12:27:32 AM
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Agreed
21/09/2012 07:34:17 AM
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Blah. *NM*
21/09/2012 11:39:14 PM
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I do like where you were heading, though
22/09/2012 05:19:00 PM
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I've got an idea!
23/09/2012 12:54:42 PM
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Is your character human?
19/09/2012 09:20:00 PM
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Did you ever at any point attend Sunnydale High School? *NM*
20/09/2012 01:18:05 AM
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Can we add "as a student"?
20/09/2012 07:45:37 AM
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Are you one of the Scoobies?
20/09/2012 04:15:39 PM
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This is more or less the same as being in the title sequence/being a main character.
21/09/2012 12:26:45 AM
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How many different tv series have you (the character) appeared in? *NM*
23/09/2012 02:11:10 AM
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That can only be one or two right?
23/09/2012 06:44:22 PM
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there's Fray and possibly the movie
23/09/2012 08:29:41 PM
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I was just going with the two tv series
24/09/2012 02:30:38 AM
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i think the two comic seasons should be included but untill we hear from Beet
24/09/2012 08:13:25 PM
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The questions asked [TABLE] [EDIT 2]
20/09/2012 10:03:34 PM
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Three? I though everyone was getting two questions...? *NM*
21/09/2012 12:12:07 AM
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Oh right...
21/09/2012 12:12:38 AM
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Wait untill we're done and all questions are agreed upon
21/09/2012 07:38:23 AM
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We usually use Invisible Castle
22/09/2012 06:10:33 AM
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Sorry all
24/09/2012 07:34:36 PM
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hmmm... it's usually near instantaneous... I'll do it though
25/09/2012 06:04:27 AM
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Okay, here we are
25/09/2012 06:11:43 AM
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Botched that 2nd link (edit)
25/09/2012 06:14:24 AM
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Grrrr
25/09/2012 10:42:03 AM
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We can do the first question now and figure that out later, but I see no need
25/09/2012 01:00:19 PM
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Would I have to answer three then?
26/09/2012 01:35:17 AM
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Just as penalty for anyone who doesn't come up with one, probably won't be necessary
21/09/2012 05:47:25 AM
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Gosh guys...
26/09/2012 01:30:37 AM
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Relax and stop studying?
26/09/2012 05:12:00 AM
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An hour a week?
26/09/2012 04:51:16 PM
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Actually, now that I think about it that kinda makes sense.
26/09/2012 07:52:18 PM
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It's more that you tend to always be learning
27/09/2012 04:59:46 AM
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Ah, now that I get.
27/09/2012 06:43:28 AM
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I agree about formal study but its pretty dependent on topic
28/09/2012 04:15:42 AM
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Re: Relax and stop studying?
26/09/2012 06:29:34 PM
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So true. My exams start tomorrow and I haven't had time to even start reading for them.
26/09/2012 06:41:04 AM
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EBWOP, I edited the title, I forgot we were in mafia thread. *NM*
26/09/2012 08:52:33 AM
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Let's get back on track: the Questions have been dealt
26/09/2012 08:16:17 PM
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My answers
26/09/2012 08:32:22 PM
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Wait, weren't we supposed to code our answers?
26/09/2012 09:35:09 PM
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Ah well. It's not like my code would be especially hard to decipher
.
26/09/2012 09:35:55 PM
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Man, I am way too lazy to come up with a code, so here's my answers
27/09/2012 02:32:31 AM
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Answers [TABLE] [EDIT 5]
27/09/2012 10:50:35 AM
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Some analysis
28/09/2012 12:03:17 PM
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With Stephen's answers added: that makes four out of 10 from season 1. *NM*
28/09/2012 01:36:58 PM
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Re: Some analysis
29/09/2012 01:33:46 AM
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another question?
01/10/2012 01:04:04 PM
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We're just procrastinating.
01/10/2012 05:56:47 PM
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He posted only 2 things in the entire mafiamouth-thread, none RBIRL... *NM*
01/10/2012 08:11:52 PM
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I did notice.
02/10/2012 12:44:40 AM
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Just to stir up some action.
03/10/2012 03:28:28 PM
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Re: Just to stir up some action.
03/10/2012 07:43:13 PM
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This does sound a bit suspicious...
04/10/2012 02:38:05 AM
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What do you mean? *NM*
04/10/2012 03:47:48 AM
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I mean claiming non-human when non-human=scum. *NM*
05/10/2012 02:15:33 PM
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Second set of questions
04/10/2012 08:25:04 AM
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Five & Yes *NM*
05/10/2012 01:05:16 AM
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Re: Second set of questions
07/10/2012 06:03:35 PM
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Beware: you're not allowed to edit posts.
08/10/2012 02:43:42 PM
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You guts ares awesome'
05/10/2012 11:32:20 PM
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You're awesome too.
06/10/2012 12:17:06 AM
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Oh boy.
06/10/2012 12:52:53 PM
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I seriously thought you were drunk
08/10/2012 02:41:20 PM
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Yes, I seriously were. *NM*
08/10/2012 08:51:37 PM
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Was. I seriously was. (am not now btw, eventhough I still can't spell
) *NM*
08/10/2012 08:55:50 PM
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Based on the new table, with everybody answered.
08/10/2012 04:18:43 PM
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So.
09/10/2012 01:57:06 AM
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No, I'm just looking for options here. *NM*
09/10/2012 08:33:44 AM
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Yes, I stand out as the only non-human so far but
09/10/2012 07:39:07 PM
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You accuse others of lying? *NM*
09/10/2012 08:33:28 PM
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not accusing anybody, not everybody has had to answer this question... *NM*
09/10/2012 09:52:44 PM
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But you say you want people's true answer...
10/10/2012 02:49:18 AM
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Is there a vote count?
09/10/2012 08:42:56 AM
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Didn't someone vote for rana? *NM*
09/10/2012 01:26:23 PM
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So, Artsapat interrupted our previous lynch attempt...
11/10/2012 03:12:16 AM
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Re: So, Artsapat interrupted our previous lynch attempt...
11/10/2012 10:51:50 AM
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Re: So, Artsapat interrupted our previous lynch attempt...
11/10/2012 09:47:02 PM
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RBIRL this weekend
12/10/2012 10:48:54 PM
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I'm generally opposed to lynching new players on Day 1, but we need to get this moving
14/10/2012 04:01:18 AM
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Vote: Yunalesca
14/10/2012 02:50:09 PM
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Yo beet is there a time limit? *NM*
14/10/2012 11:16:57 PM
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Considering we're about to hit 1 month, I think Friday is a good deadline *NM*
15/10/2012 02:27:10 PM
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The bitca comment also stands out for me
15/10/2012 12:47:40 PM
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Here's what I've gathered the case is against each person
16/10/2012 02:42:52 AM
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And the bitca bit...dunno if that matters. *NM*
16/10/2012 02:43:53 AM
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I feel like if we're not going to call Isaac out for his non-answer, then it shouldn't. *NM*
17/10/2012 01:35:29 AM
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I feel torn.
16/10/2012 11:55:10 AM
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Re: I feel torn.
16/10/2012 06:21:09 PM
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agreed, and the outsider (F-T) who was named by Artsapat... *NM*
16/10/2012 06:31:24 PM
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The ladies doth protest too much *NM*
16/10/2012 09:21:53 PM
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I'm not a lady (though I see your point
) *NM*
17/10/2012 09:25:02 AM
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I didn't want Shakespeare's zombie coming after me for botching his line... *NM*
17/10/2012 08:33:24 PM
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All right...
18/10/2012 04:11:55 AM
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Ok with me too, although I doubt it would help much
18/10/2012 11:05:19 AM
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You know that goes against your whole treatise where you claim to be good because you're a Scooby *NM*
18/10/2012 03:05:40 PM
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you're right. But that's my idea on how this specific game will work out. *NM*
18/10/2012 03:13:59 PM
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My understanding of that passage...
18/10/2012 07:30:03 PM
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That's mine as well.
19/10/2012 12:37:05 AM
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I never figured it like that
19/10/2012 08:20:54 AM
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wow! I never of it like that, but it sure is another convincing explanation.. *NM*
19/10/2012 12:58:33 PM
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I don't approve of this motion.
18/10/2012 07:22:03 PM
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I'd not really noticed the deadline, beet might extend it if we're actually moving to conclusion
19/10/2012 03:42:32 AM
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So, all in all...
18/10/2012 06:59:25 AM
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I think we are all much more carefull with our words after Hobo.
18/10/2012 09:32:12 AM
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Since the deadline is extended, let's roll out character claims and proceed from there
20/10/2012 03:27:07 AM
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what now? its 4 days til the deadline and the thread's been dead.
22/10/2012 10:05:54 PM
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If we believe you it's rana, and either of you two if we don't, I think.
22/10/2012 10:51:41 PM
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My vote on Taiga will stand.
23/10/2012 12:12:17 AM
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Re: My vote on Taiga will stand.
23/10/2012 08:25:17 AM
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I don't get it...
23/10/2012 08:40:43 PM
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I still think Ranagrande is the best choice, but I could easily be persuaded otherwise.
23/10/2012 04:37:49 AM
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Vote: Ranagrande
25/10/2012 07:40:47 PM
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Twilight
26/10/2012 02:30:38 PM
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a good guess? Telekinetics? *NM*
28/10/2012 07:00:05 PM
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