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basically it's not very likely but is possible, anyway it doens't matter Isaac Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 12:15:12 PM

taiga also said "business woman" during question phase, which could be true kinda maybe, the psi corps often rents out 'commercial telepaths', people who are employed to sit in on business negotiations (openly and with the consent of both parties) to verify both are telling the truth. the two main telepaths of the series, talia winters and lyta alexander, are both commercial telepaths rated p5 (average), on hand if station command needs them but essentially hiring out for a fee to humans and aliens, businessmen or diplomats, which they send part of to the psicorp, guild dues so to speak. i wouldn't call them business people, but i wouldn't call it a definite lie either, the term is broad and could fit into the aes sedai variety of dishonesty we regularly practice in game, town or scum.

however, not as a p1, they can't read minds and couldn't be a commercial telepath. the psicorp permits human telepaths exactly three options, join the corp, take drugs - sleepers - that block the ability and are unpleasant, or go to jail. taiga can only be on the 'sleepers' or a member of the corp to be claiming business woman. it isn't impossible but it really isn't very likely. someone on the sleepers is probably not going to be very good at commerce, they're 'known to cause mental disassociation as well as severe and sometimes suicidal depression'. the stations second-in-command had a telepath mother (she's actually a secret p1 herself) who was on the sleepers and killed herself. that's a major plot point of the series.

still, as i've said my own character thinks we're law abiding legit folk but the role message undertone inclines me to think i might be viewed as shady and this may or may not be justified, for all i know i handle illegal contraband and just consider myself honest. taiga could be a rogue telepath selling illegal goods and still be town, i'd say taiga could be a rogue telepath illegal scanning people but a p1's barely got any ability, as mentioned, they are known to be able to tell if someone is scanning them (at least if the person doing it doesn't know they're a telepath, a good telepath can read a weaker telepath unnoticed) but they can't read minds. i also add that telepath ratings concerning exact abilities are a bit vague in primary canon.

taiga can't be a cop based on telepathic strength, not unless the mod messed up and that happens, and taiga could be a cop role by mundane means but not by telepathic means, p1 is just too weak. and it would seem weird to make some a telepath as cop but make their cop aspect unrelated to their power. the mod might have just wanted a weak telepath, remembered p5 wasn't weak and just picked p1 without pondering it much. even a p5 could fish around all our heads in minutes after all.

all things considered though, i just find this claim dubious at best. not impossible though.

as i mentioned int my title though it doesn't really matter. we can have everyone deny they're the cop, if taiga is lying it is worth exposing the cop to get a scummer and we can't risk losing our cop to lynch. we pretty much have to do the whole 'everyone respond, is it your opinion based on info in your possession that taiga's cop-claim is improbable? eg are you a cop, have you been told we have no cop, are you a tracker or other investigative role that would make the cop role less likely, etc?' bit.

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Day 1 – “And so… it begins” – Kosh Naranek - 11/03/2013 09:51:19 AM 1816 Views
List of players - 11/03/2013 09:52:43 AM 835 Views
let's get to assigning questions! - 11/03/2013 11:42:05 AM 827 Views
So did anything happen to anyone during 'Night 0'? *NM* - 11/03/2013 05:35:51 PM 441 Views
I assume somerhing did happen as our mod asked for night actions... - 13/03/2013 10:12:58 AM 804 Views
Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 02:59:49 PM 693 Views
Re: Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 06:46:01 PM 768 Views
I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 09:10:40 PM 761 Views
Re: I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 10:46:33 PM 757 Views
Night 0 relevant info - 02/04/2013 11:46:05 AM 732 Views
So if I understand this correctly... - 13/03/2013 09:39:32 PM 757 Views
Hm. I was assuming this was going to be a Hieshyn nightkill - 11/03/2013 05:45:22 PM 627 Views
Modkill warning - 13/03/2013 03:56:04 PM 763 Views
Vote: Hieshyn - 14/03/2013 07:57:01 AM 797 Views
I generally prefer modkills to lynches... - 14/03/2013 07:24:52 PM 778 Views
Don't do it! *NM* - 17/03/2013 11:57:25 PM 441 Views
So shall we do these questions? - 14/03/2013 02:18:21 PM 843 Views
yep - 2 questions of your pick or your random one - 14/03/2013 09:21:10 PM 630 Views
questions (table) - 14/03/2013 09:28:55 PM 892 Views
Your list of questions includes is off by one because it includes '1' twice - 14/03/2013 10:51:40 PM 748 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 435 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 327 Views
it literally deletes my numbers and replaces them - 15/03/2013 01:13:00 AM 723 Views
I've edited it for you. - 15/03/2013 03:35:56 AM 744 Views
... and now it is missing spaces - 15/03/2013 04:25:52 AM 765 Views
Urgh. I don't want to figure this out, I've got Heart of the Swarm to play . - 15/03/2013 05:50:26 AM 696 Views
ah, i'd been seeing adds for that, enjoy - 15/03/2013 09:09:50 AM 827 Views
Well, it is SciFi - 15/03/2013 09:32:53 AM 639 Views
answer to 4: my character is female *NM* - 15/03/2013 08:10:02 AM 322 Views
Am I humanoid? Yes. *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:56:34 PM 426 Views
answer to number one: no *NM* - 15/03/2013 07:51:06 PM 535 Views
I am so confused. - 17/03/2013 03:33:40 AM 669 Views
Ha ha, if you need help: NB me - 17/03/2013 07:46:34 PM 620 Views
Answer to number 3: Work *NM* - 17/03/2013 10:44:56 PM 477 Views
another question I just thought of... - 19/03/2013 08:49:12 AM 838 Views
Erm... I haven't actually done anything wrong. - 19/03/2013 05:11:22 PM 675 Views
i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 06:36:21 PM 817 Views
Re: i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 08:59:49 PM 758 Views
Vote: Taiga - 19/03/2013 10:44:28 PM 745 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2013 04:17:20 PM 716 Views
Don't want to reveal? I don't even know! - 20/03/2013 05:05:05 PM 777 Views
You, on the other hand... - 20/03/2013 05:06:09 PM 772 Views
Re: You, on the other hand... - 21/03/2013 12:52:33 PM 737 Views
Yeah, I'm not a criminal either... *NM* - 20/03/2013 02:39:22 PM 411 Views
Vote- Isaac - 18/03/2013 04:47:36 AM 718 Views
I say we have an in-depth discussion on what type of porn Isaac watches *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:10 PM 427 Views
Something sneaky and suspicious, I'm sure. Suprise buttsex? *NM* - 18/03/2013 05:21:42 PM 439 Views
I reckon it's all innocuously titled but really weird when you watch it. *NM* - 19/03/2013 11:45:02 PM 438 Views
there's innocously titled porn? - 20/03/2013 05:36:21 AM 809 Views
:p even the brand new player instantly suspects me *NM* - 19/03/2013 06:29:26 PM 432 Views
Wise, the young one is. *NM* - 19/03/2013 07:59:15 PM 400 Views
A quick announcement - 18/03/2013 09:08:57 AM 569 Views
Total agreement! Unvote! *NM* - 18/03/2013 10:16:42 AM 329 Views
Nice! *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:50 PM 455 Views
The replacement is galadriel3562 - 18/03/2013 06:59:52 PM 766 Views
Why does everyone think I eat people? - 18/03/2013 10:43:32 PM 742 Views
Why do you think that you don't? - 19/03/2013 04:24:59 AM 636 Views
Re: Why do you think that you don't? - 20/03/2013 11:09:08 PM 762 Views
An introduction & answer to question - 19/03/2013 07:11:09 AM 668 Views
do you guys want to do a 2nd round of questions? - 19/03/2013 06:33:40 PM 612 Views
I more or less proposed that... - 19/03/2013 09:03:24 PM 703 Views
A summary of the first round of questions: - 20/03/2013 02:43:30 PM 763 Views
So, are the Non-Aligned Worlds super common? - 20/03/2013 02:45:18 PM 746 Views
IMHO not very suspicious... - 20/03/2013 04:21:45 PM 696 Views
If being from a non-aligned world is not terribly suspicious... - 20/03/2013 05:27:31 PM 679 Views
Yeah, none would fall for that one anymore. *NM* - 20/03/2013 05:38:24 PM 436 Views
I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 08:53:18 PM 716 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 09:17:57 PM 845 Views
Hah. That would be awesome. - 20/03/2013 09:46:56 PM 631 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 21/03/2013 12:57:15 PM 707 Views
Also, I have a great singing voice. *NM* - 20/03/2013 07:53:49 PM 456 Views
I'm at PAX till Sunday, so I'll be mostly out of touch (RBIRL) - 22/03/2013 04:26:39 AM 771 Views
OH MY GOD! - 22/03/2013 07:24:34 PM 772 Views
Who? What? What's that? - 23/03/2013 12:47:02 PM 642 Views
I'm having trouble following what is going on. - 22/03/2013 04:29:32 PM 719 Views
Presumably this helps. - 22/03/2013 04:44:44 PM 755 Views
not backing away, explaining - 23/03/2013 01:07:19 PM 779 Views
Being in jail doesn't necessarily mean one is jailed justly. - 23/03/2013 01:29:36 PM 732 Views
Agree with the sentiment of being unjustly jailed but... - 23/03/2013 03:01:26 PM 740 Views
Right, but the point here is... - 23/03/2013 04:11:08 PM 735 Views
I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 04:19:12 AM 743 Views
Re: I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 10:30:14 AM 731 Views
All I know is what I learned in face to face to Mafia. - 24/03/2013 03:21:42 PM 779 Views
The gag here is Isaac is always suspected by everyone, no matter what he does. *NM* - 24/03/2013 06:13:11 PM 446 Views
Always suspected, never lynched. - 24/03/2013 07:49:00 PM 717 Views
Indeed. Dannymac will fit right in. *NM* - 24/03/2013 09:22:55 PM 400 Views
The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 03:46:26 PM 735 Views
Re: The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 05:12:14 PM 661 Views
Finally were moving ahead. Vote:Taiga - 25/03/2013 07:40:31 PM 737 Views
oh man - 26/03/2013 12:20:26 PM 821 Views
That's enough for now. Unvote. - 26/03/2013 01:01:25 PM 700 Views
yep, square 1. Sorry for that. *NM* - 26/03/2013 01:22:10 PM 341 Views
Devil's advocate: Taiga didn't really offer anything here - 26/03/2013 02:38:21 PM 642 Views
i agree, i think i'm more suspiscious - 26/03/2013 05:08:33 PM 811 Views
Lore question! - 26/03/2013 10:06:06 PM 694 Views
lore answer - 26/03/2013 10:34:54 PM 712 Views
Ooh, "rogue telepath" would be a sweet role. Do the Centauris have any telepath connections? - 27/03/2013 01:47:59 AM 589 Views
only the narn lack telepaths - 27/03/2013 02:37:22 AM 653 Views
Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 07:40:56 PM 834 Views
Re: Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 10:20:58 PM 792 Views
You are making a mistake - 27/03/2013 10:09:41 PM 748 Views
Almost certainly true. - 28/03/2013 04:54:49 AM 842 Views
A roleclaim could save you, at this point - 28/03/2013 12:17:18 PM 681 Views
Agree on the RC - 29/03/2013 11:35:54 PM 705 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:48:28 AM 749 Views
Unvote - 30/03/2013 04:39:53 PM 682 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:50:25 AM 693 Views
i think you're lying, there's no such thing as a p1 psi cop - 30/03/2013 09:54:44 PM 727 Views
You're right - 01/04/2013 03:11:16 PM 714 Views
So, what are you saying? - 02/04/2013 06:42:33 PM 668 Views
Ok, Taiga. Crashing the site in order to survive was going too far. - 29/03/2013 04:43:04 PM 727 Views
I agree.... :-> - 29/03/2013 04:52:03 PM 662 Views
Aye, the cheaty guy! *NM* - 29/03/2013 08:16:55 PM 455 Views
He crashed the site again? - 01/04/2013 03:15:54 PM 791 Views
Unvote. Unless anyone claims Taiga is lying? *NM* - 30/03/2013 06:41:13 PM 327 Views
yes, i think so - 30/03/2013 10:14:22 PM 741 Views
The site had to crash the time I have a 4 day weekend - 02/04/2013 07:23:20 PM 794 Views
I think it depends on if the lore makes sense. Isaac, what do you think of Taiga's explanation? *NM* - 03/04/2013 03:03:49 PM 426 Views
This, pretty much. *NM* - 03/04/2013 07:56:22 PM 316 Views
basically it's not very likely but is possible, anyway it doens't matter - 04/04/2013 12:15:12 PM 790 Views
I'd been thinking the same thing. - 04/04/2013 06:19:57 PM 742 Views
In fact, I unvoted because of this. - 05/04/2013 06:55:32 PM 714 Views
hypothesis - 02/04/2013 08:57:46 PM 800 Views
I'm not sure... - 03/04/2013 11:17:08 PM 708 Views
Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 08:34:36 AM 621 Views
Re: Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 12:16:18 PM 650 Views
No lynch equals mafia win. - 04/04/2013 02:14:08 PM 799 Views
Flying to a Funeral tomorow. - 04/04/2013 06:29:24 AM 751 Views
Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 03:02:29 PM 820 Views
as I said before: go kill the cop - 04/04/2013 03:25:11 PM 655 Views
you probably shouldn't tempt us - 04/04/2013 07:51:20 PM 722 Views
my rm doesn't say anything about what business, just a regular business woman. *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:05:47 AM 403 Views
ah, well then, vote: taiga - 05/04/2013 09:05:44 AM 762 Views
also... - 05/04/2013 09:14:39 AM 711 Views
Re: Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 05:19:28 PM 771 Views
I was scum in my first game too *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:06:39 AM 326 Views
Actually, that's a good point. Vote: Taiga - 04/04/2013 05:54:41 PM 756 Views
Come on, folks. Let's get to day 2. - 08/04/2013 05:56:47 PM 788 Views
Hm, yeah, I had assumed we hit the required number of votes for some reason - 08/04/2013 06:07:25 PM 623 Views
we need 5, also still waiting for people to claim it's a false claim - 08/04/2013 06:18:34 PM 621 Views
I thought that was pretty implicit in my claims of waiting for a cop claim. - 08/04/2013 09:21:17 PM 730 Views
such being the case we can go through those who have voted for him or supported it - 08/04/2013 10:40:11 PM 658 Views
Very well. Then consider this my official non-cop claim . - 08/04/2013 11:09:32 PM 782 Views
let me detail this for clarity for the others, as a question we both answered "no" to (table) - 08/04/2013 11:50:39 PM 756 Views
also, unvote: taiga, for now at least - 08/04/2013 11:54:32 PM 843 Views
To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 01:29:12 AM 786 Views
Re: To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 03:04:07 AM 730 Views
"overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 07:13:12 AM 778 Views
The number of DF is not set. - 09/04/2013 08:32:31 AM 766 Views
Gibbed? SK? - 09/04/2013 04:31:53 PM 721 Views
Re: "overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 10:32:37 AM 767 Views
While I'm a bit reluctant to divulge this... - 09/04/2013 07:21:55 AM 788 Views
Please clarify yourself.. *NM* - 09/04/2013 10:22:00 AM 422 Views
no-cop claim - 09/04/2013 04:32:22 PM 740 Views
Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:09:24 PM 774 Views
Re: Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:46:03 PM 750 Views
Eh? - 09/04/2013 10:48:55 PM 772 Views
My role is perfectly clear as well. - 09/04/2013 11:44:23 PM 791 Views
So we're waiting for someone to make a fatal error and make this easy? - 10/04/2013 04:49:46 AM 643 Views
Hm. - 10/04/2013 04:06:04 PM 685 Views
still waiting on official disclaimers from lucy and lassi - 10/04/2013 06:25:44 PM 682 Views
Not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:35:46 PM 330 Views
one to go then *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:42:16 PM 414 Views
not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:45:01 PM 443 Views
while we're waiting though - 10/04/2013 06:41:44 PM 693 Views
ok, let's try something reckless and crazy - 10/04/2013 08:06:48 PM 589 Views
No objections *NM* - 11/04/2013 09:31:01 AM 319 Views
So... whats the point of this, then? - 11/04/2013 04:33:48 PM 702 Views
ah, the ciphering is fairly normal - 11/04/2013 05:17:59 PM 814 Views
Well, ok then. - 12/04/2013 06:02:04 PM 642 Views
I don't deny that this is a plan that would likely be very profitable for us... - 12/04/2013 10:46:13 PM 544 Views
i'll start a table for it then - 13/04/2013 01:16:28 AM 742 Views
encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 01:55:49 AM 793 Views
So because we're stalled... - 13/04/2013 05:22:37 AM 653 Views
Here we go - 13/04/2013 06:42:48 AM 782 Views
Re: encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 11:36:27 AM 683 Views
Re: encrypted claims - 15/04/2013 04:30:58 PM 759 Views
Mine - 16/04/2013 12:52:30 PM 626 Views
my encrypted claims - 17/04/2013 09:13:34 AM 594 Views
RBIRL - 15/04/2013 09:06:33 PM 620 Views
we're waiting on one more encryption, so... - 17/04/2013 09:55:21 AM 729 Views
I encrypted it all together. - 17/04/2013 06:25:26 PM 788 Views
agreed *NM* - 17/04/2013 09:36:02 PM 323 Views
me too, same key for all 3 *NM* - 17/04/2013 10:09:08 PM 437 Views
I used one key for all of them as well *NM* - 17/04/2013 11:14:43 PM 449 Views
I didn't. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:23:47 PM 422 Views
Me neither. I've got a separate cipher for everyone of them. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:59:31 PM 426 Views
I'm joining the last two, three separate keys.... *NM* *NM* - 18/04/2013 10:49:55 PM 447 Views
vote: beetnemesis - 19/04/2013 12:22:12 AM 679 Views
or get a modkill... - 19/04/2013 12:24:45 AM 790 Views
also while we're burning time, and amusing subgame - 19/04/2013 12:33:25 AM 718 Views
twice you made the tables (questions and encrypted claims) and voting very late. - 19/04/2013 02:06:13 PM 714 Views
nope, I usually make tables and... - 19/04/2013 02:50:30 PM 782 Views
hmmm, - 19/04/2013 07:17:41 PM 817 Views
Hahaha, +1 *NM* - 19/04/2013 07:36:00 PM 432 Views
- 20/04/2013 03:29:27 AM 596 Views
Re: - 20/04/2013 08:58:14 AM 820 Views
And we love you for it. - 21/04/2013 06:54:28 PM 661 Views
RBIRL again *NM* - 20/04/2013 07:13:57 AM 405 Views
Not really. - 21/04/2013 04:42:24 PM 744 Views
Oh, I almost forgot: Vote: beetnemesis. - 21/04/2013 04:45:39 PM 608 Views
Re: Not really. - 22/04/2013 06:06:26 AM 743 Views
You have been abducted by aliens and replaced by some form of extraterrestrial life form. - 26/04/2013 01:27:10 AM 752 Views
nah, that happened years ago, this is recent *NM* - 26/04/2013 01:39:53 AM 431 Views
Besides, it isn't really unusual. - 26/04/2013 02:23:24 AM 737 Views
Really, you think so? - 26/04/2013 09:51:31 AM 815 Views
Your cleverity there leaves room for improvement. *NM* - 27/04/2013 12:04:47 AM 447 Views
As much as I love the discussion... - 21/04/2013 07:19:57 PM 755 Views
I join...Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 09:21:16 PM 352 Views
Well, in that case. Vote:beetnemesis - 21/04/2013 09:53:08 PM 745 Views
I prefer modkill not to end the day. - 21/04/2013 10:28:56 PM 637 Views
Ok, Vote:beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 10:39:37 PM 493 Views
Night 1 – "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." – Zack Allan - 22/04/2013 08:03:25 AM 859 Views
yes, we got lucky! *NM* - 22/04/2013 08:35:41 AM 431 Views
Indeed. Let's hope the luck keeps up. *NM* - 22/04/2013 02:40:48 PM 437 Views
Bah! - 22/04/2013 09:07:38 PM 713 Views
Too bad - 23/04/2013 07:20:51 AM 749 Views
We have a Facebook group? Neat. *NM* - 23/04/2013 06:26:44 PM 443 Views
https://www.facebook.com/groups/134337250069780/ - 23/04/2013 07:23:40 PM 668 Views
Sooo, how long is this night going to take? *NM* - 26/04/2013 07:25:47 AM 397 Views
Max 29-4...mod said so in the night Message above... *NM* - 26/04/2013 09:35:35 AM 434 Views
Huh. I missed that. *NM* - 26/04/2013 11:58:23 AM 302 Views

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