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View original postThere are a few reasons why I have not posted much yet:
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View original post1) I always have trouble with the first day. I have no clue what to do or say. In the flavoured games that I participated in I can say something about the theme, but without that I feel even more lost that usual
View original postDay 1's are a nightmare, that's why I always prod mods to put in clues and mini-games for day 1. If it makes you feel better I think everyone hates Day 1. I know I do, shoving games forward on day 1 has contributed to making me a routine night action magnet, NK target, and perpetual suspect #1. Admittedly it is not the only reason but it is a big factor in it. There's a very direct correlation between player activity and night action usage.
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View original post2) Last game I tried to push the game forward. This wasn't the best of tactics as it resulted in me spilling the beans on my character (as the only player) and almost got lynched the first day. Another reason why I keep low at the moment. I wait and see and leave it to more experienced players to come up with more or less reasonable first day-solutions.
View original postInstead we lynched Beet, who was a scummer. Walking the razor's edge is half the fun of the game, for me anyway.
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View original postAs I think I am not the only one with this kind of explanation, besides the persons who are or have been RBIRL I think this strategy Isaac proposed, is not very valuable. It still is a covert random lynch.
View original postBut it isn't random at all, the logic is simple. We lynch people, on the surface, for scummiest behavior, but ultimately our goal is to try to nail the scum while expending the minimum assets. A good townie tries to aim as many bullets at the scum as possible while minimizing the odds of a townie dying and minimizing the damage to the town. This is why a vanilla Day 1 claim is considered anti-town, it does not help the town because it is either true or it isn't, if true it gives the scum better odds of killing a roled player, if false then we have to activate the Lie-Lynch policy. So anything that harms the town's chances at victory is anti-town, and anything that enhances it is pro-town, and in the absence of a good specific suspect the town has only 3 options:
View original post1) No Lynch - but most of the players consider this to be anti-town
View original post2) Random Lynch - But a true random lynch is anti-game, it is just tossing a die.
View original post3) Minimize possible damage to the town by selecting a target who is as likely to be scum or roled as anyone else, but if town is acting in the most anti-town or least pro-town fashion, minimizing damage to the town.
View original postThere's more to play then role powers, we need investigation, deduction, insight, prosecution and defense, etc and those can only be observed via what people post, more we know that the scum are most strategically aided by silence. Even I consider it so, I just consider silence anti-game and don't use it, but it definitely is advantageous. So silence by a townie aids the scum because it allows them to minimize their own risk by matching it. The scum who prefer to be talkative typically are steering the mood and agenda anyway, and having done that a lot I can say it is much easier to do if other people aren't out their trying to steer and object. When many players are quiet then some of the scum can hide form sight and exposure and the stronger ones can steer the ship. So silence is anti-town and thus not a 'random lynch' at all. Not just because it minimizes losses but also because it often prods players into action.
View original postIt's important to understand that as frustrating as Day 1 is for townies, it is more so for the scum, this is their most powerful yet most vulnerable time. Every question, every line of attack, has a chance of toppling them before they've been able to meet and speak. Whole lines of future maneuver can be clipped out by a single remark from a scummer on day 1 even if they survive un-lynched and unsuspected. The clever scum get together on night 1 and create a grand plan and fallbacks and means of warning each other covertly during the day, they can act as a group and find each other's overlooked errors or messups. But not until night 1. They're weakest now and that's why pressing hard on day 1 is vital.
Whereas I enjoy being alive, I have to voice my growing impatience towards the in-game passage of time. Nighty-night, anyone?
ooh it's all sticky
Mafia 32 - No Fancy Title - Day 1
- 28/07/2013 06:46:40 PM
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Use lube, this is my first time! *NM*
- 29/07/2013 08:26:59 AM
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I loled *NM*
- 29/07/2013 10:31:08 AM
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Just because of this comment I know he'll fit right in.
- 01/08/2013 10:38:01 AM
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RBIRL from Tuesday to Sunday
- 29/07/2013 01:06:35 PM
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I'm RBIRL from friday to sunday, myself
- 29/07/2013 02:10:19 PM
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apparently we got no fancy fantasy theme, but straight Mafia
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- 29/07/2013 03:18:18 PM
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- 29/07/2013 03:18:18 PM
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I'm actually kinda glad. I think it was getting too...complicated for me.
- 29/07/2013 03:48:33 PM
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Agreed, but I would imagine Bergioyn might have some twists in store for us.
- 29/07/2013 09:52:30 PM
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Eh, Let's just go. IT WAS YOU THAT DID IT, WASN'T IT *NM*
- 29/07/2013 10:56:49 PM
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It was you that done it, now own up!
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- 29/07/2013 11:41:40 PM
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- 29/07/2013 11:41:40 PM
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Okay! I admit it! It was me! Oh wait... were you talking to or him? *NM*
- 30/07/2013 02:31:30 AM
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Vote: Hobo
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Re: Vote: Hobo
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Re: Vote: Hobo
- 01/08/2013 10:44:27 AM
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I don't think it was
- 01/08/2013 12:50:24 PM
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If I remember correctly he had some dastatdly plot to catch the scum.
- 01/08/2013 04:32:51 PM
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He was very unclear on tha tpoint after the fact
- 01/08/2013 11:27:00 PM
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Well, believe it or not, I swear it wasn't me this time. I blame
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- 30/07/2013 02:07:38 PM
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s *NM*
- 30/07/2013 02:07:38 PM
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it was probably Isaac but in the end he'll win the game
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- 30/07/2013 05:37:07 PM
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- 30/07/2013 05:37:07 PM
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Rule #1: Isaac wins *NM*
- 30/07/2013 06:18:38 PM
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Rules are made to be broken. *NM*
- 30/07/2013 06:51:38 PM
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But is this rule able to be broken? *NM*
- 30/07/2013 06:54:22 PM
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Surely you recall the Marvel[ous] Siege? You were mason buddy
- 01/08/2013 12:14:47 AM
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I vaguely remember the Marvel game, but not any specifics... *NM*
- 04/08/2013 09:55:24 PM
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Vote: Sacrilicious Toast
- 30/07/2013 12:56:04 PM
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Okay, getting moving (Table)
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Yes, No, No
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Re: Yes, No, No
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Yeah, my name's a real one too, just not logically related to anything in the game. *NM*
- 02/08/2013 07:17:42 PM
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would be nice if one player answered Yes, Yes. Yes now: Lie = lynch
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- 03/08/2013 09:12:07 AM
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- 03/08/2013 09:12:07 AM
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Well I'm reasonably sure some of them will either answer other then yes, no, no or lie
- 03/08/2013 12:29:34 PM
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Vote: Isaac
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Re: Vote: Isaac
- 03/08/2013 07:32:48 AM
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The "... and people die" part is probably accurate though *NM*
- 03/08/2013 12:32:40 PM
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Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info
- 05/08/2013 07:03:07 PM
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Well
- 05/08/2013 07:25:22 PM
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That is correct
- 05/08/2013 07:35:24 PM
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Oh yeah, you're right
- 05/08/2013 09:42:23 PM
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I posted I was back.... NLRBIRL *NM*
- 05/08/2013 10:25:58 PM
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What's the NL for? RBIRL Real Busy in Real Life, NL=?
- 06/08/2013 08:56:16 AM
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would be a very awkward abbreviation
- 07/08/2013 10:05:17 AM
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- 07/08/2013 10:05:17 AM
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Heh, you're answering a question that wasn't even asked
- 07/08/2013 10:40:26 AM
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I completely see where you guys are coming from. Us small nations need to feel important.
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- 07/08/2013 10:50:39 AM
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- 07/08/2013 10:50:39 AM
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Re: Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info
- 05/08/2013 08:26:01 PM
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I think we may need to contemplate some semi-random options
- 06/08/2013 07:55:25 AM
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List of remarks by the 'accused', plus some remarks on them
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explanation
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Re: explanation
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Re: explanation
- 06/08/2013 09:59:45 AM
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I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster...
- 06/08/2013 10:00:22 AM
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Re: I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster...
- 07/08/2013 07:48:34 PM
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I would look at it a bit differently, even if the outcome doesn't change that much
- 06/08/2013 03:55:12 PM
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Well, I'm impressed
- 06/08/2013 04:11:31 PM
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I thank you for the compliment.
- 06/08/2013 09:51:54 PM
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Re: I thank you for the compliment.
- 07/08/2013 01:53:25 AM
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Oh dear, this is unfortunate.
- 07/08/2013 09:46:26 PM
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Re: Oh dear, this is unfortunate.
- 07/08/2013 11:32:12 PM
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I was reading Planescape materials and checking this forum slipped my mind.
- 07/08/2013 11:48:29 PM
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Re: I was reading Planescape materials and checking this forum slipped my mind.
- 08/08/2013 08:04:34 AM
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Like I said, it's great that you got things moving and I'm not accusing you of anything.
- 08/08/2013 06:08:58 PM
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Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday)
- 07/08/2013 03:37:36 PM
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Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday)
- 07/08/2013 04:11:04 PM
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He really is...
- 07/08/2013 04:55:59 PM
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I think he's worried I'm going to murder him, wonder where he got that idea?
- 07/08/2013 06:09:07 PM
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BAMF?
- 07/08/2013 06:31:59 PM
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It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports
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Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports
- 07/08/2013 06:42:30 PM
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Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports
- 07/08/2013 06:45:49 PM
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When it comes to Marvel, it's Spidey and Deadpool all the way! X-Men. Pffft.
- 07/08/2013 10:38:41 PM
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- 07/08/2013 10:38:41 PM
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Dr Doom was always my favorite hero in Marvel, but Deadpool is pretty cool *NM*
- 07/08/2013 10:52:39 PM
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Dr Doom has cool costume, but other than that I don't know much about him.
- 07/08/2013 11:37:09 PM
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He's Marvel's Lex Luthor, only much cooler
- 07/08/2013 11:48:00 PM
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I'd actually say he's a bit more like Marvel's Superman than Marvel's Lex Luthor.
- 07/08/2013 11:54:14 PM
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OK, here I am! Some layout analysis:
- 07/08/2013 04:49:33 PM
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Well, you obviously know something, so out with it
- 07/08/2013 06:33:04 PM
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With that in mind... sounds like I hit too close to home, and you got sensitive
- 08/08/2013 03:10:50 AM
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Vote: Beetnemesis, Are you accusing me of being scum for pointing out your post had no substance?
- 08/08/2013 03:39:25 AM
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Re:
- 08/08/2013 06:30:26 AM
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Granted, as you yourself pointed out: attack is the best defense
- 08/08/2013 08:17:31 AM
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How often do we even have SKs? *NM*
- 08/08/2013 09:39:58 AM
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A lone one? Maybe 1 in 4 games back when we were fielding 12-18 players as the norm
- 08/08/2013 05:05:09 PM
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re
- 07/08/2013 08:36:15 PM
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It's terrible. I used to be so active. I was modkilled last game! Oh, the shame...
- 08/08/2013 03:11:28 AM
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Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time?
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Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time?
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Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time?
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Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time?
- 08/08/2013 08:02:45 PM
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Okay, almost totally off topic but...
- 07/08/2013 11:40:54 PM
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The problem with that
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Re: The problem with that
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Reminds me of the Cairhien game a bit.
- 08/08/2013 06:14:17 PM
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That remains one of my favorites
- 08/08/2013 07:48:42 PM
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I haaaated the Cairhien game
- 08/08/2013 08:16:57 PM
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Yeah, it was one of my first mods, and one of the first really different ones. Sorry
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- 08/08/2013 09:41:27 PM
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.
- 08/08/2013 09:41:27 PM
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You should try it again, though! Just maybe give more explanation this time lol *NM*
- 08/08/2013 10:08:45 PM
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Well, the big twist has already been revealed, so it wouldn't really work
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- 08/08/2013 10:28:20 PM
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. *NM*
- 08/08/2013 10:28:20 PM
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Does anyone else have any opinions?
- 08/08/2013 05:51:23 PM
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My take:
- 08/08/2013 08:00:13 PM
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Did you just admit to being a scummer?
- 08/08/2013 08:04:21 PM
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Hah, remember when I mentioned grasping at straws?
- 08/08/2013 09:31:35 PM
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We have always used the term that way, always, that and only that back to game 2
- 08/08/2013 09:44:20 PM
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Holy crap, 4 years ago.
- 09/08/2013 02:09:09 AM
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That's when you asked and were told by the Moderator, it has come up since then many times
- 09/08/2013 04:10:28 AM
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Several people have called for a roleclaim from beet
- 09/08/2013 09:06:28 AM
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I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here...
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Re: I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here...
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No, I meant entrails.
- 09/08/2013 03:49:21 PM
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Re: No, I meant entrails.
- 09/08/2013 04:05:31 PM
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This is awesome- it's like "beetnemesis, This Is Your Life [on RAFO Mafia]" *NM*
- 09/08/2013 05:46:05 PM
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The way this Day is progressing, it's more like "beetnemesis, This Was Your Life [on RAFO Mafia]"
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- 11/08/2013 09:56:45 AM
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- 11/08/2013 09:56:45 AM
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Re: Does anyone else have any opinions?
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I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized
- 09/08/2013 05:47:23 PM
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Re: I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized
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The case on Beetnemesis
- 09/08/2013 05:05:32 PM
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Ah good, time for a point-by-point rebuttal
- 09/08/2013 06:04:11 PM
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Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal?
- 09/08/2013 07:04:40 PM
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Shrug, I have nothing against roleclaiming. Roleclaim: Tracker
- 09/08/2013 07:33:40 PM
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Correct me if wrong...
- 09/08/2013 08:39:58 PM
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No, you just did everything you could to avoid it, like claiming almost no one had asked...
- 09/08/2013 08:42:10 PM
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I really want to give beet the benefit of the doubt with the bussing vs bandwagon thing
- 09/08/2013 08:15:51 PM
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Alright, haven't fully caught up yet, but I wanted to get my thoughts out there
- 10/08/2013 10:36:20 PM
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@ Mod, Vote Check
- 11/08/2013 04:46:16 PM
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That's a valid vote, I had missed it. Twilight pending.
- 11/08/2013 05:36:13 PM
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