I wasn't calling anyone a wog, I was suggesting a likely parallel to the Ptolemies' attitude
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 09:58:23 PM
It's clear that Cleopatra was mostly Greek with a a potential admixture of native Egyptian ancestry.
At most, one grandmother might not have been Greek, IIRC. The other three grandparents are accounted for & were Macedonian, I think. Native Egyptians were not black Africans though some may have been partly black; ethnically they were closer to Arabs and Berbers (Berber languages in particular are close to ancient Egyptian etymologically). Plus, considering that most of the Ptolemies married their sisters and nieces in what is arguably the longest-running history of direct family incest in recorded history, her family tree resembles a line, and there were limited opportunities for native Egyptians to diversify the DNA.
Also the Greek conquerors would have little incentive to interbreed with their alien subjects. However, I'm not sure why that means calling Egyptians "wogs" or placing the blame for the plight of Africa solely on the inability of said "wogs" to govern their "craptacular continent" is acceptable.
I was addressing a probable attitude of the Greek rulers towards their native subjects. I wasn't actually calling them less. The bit about the African was meant to suggest that Black Africans or their sympathizers are trying to claim Egypt as their kin/ancestors/heritage because they're embarassed about the lack of accomplishment or achievement otherwise. Said lack being more the fault of the craptacular continent in question, rather than a product of racial or cultural deficiencies.
Cannoli
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"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
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Deus Vult!
*Incoherent sputters of historian rage* Angelina Jolie Incorrectly Cast In New Cleopatra Role
- 11/06/2010 02:35:15 AM
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I love Angelina jolie
- 11/06/2010 06:36:48 AM
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Did you read his post? There's no reason for an Africanish person to play the part. *NM*
- 11/06/2010 06:58:42 AM
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They should get Lyndsey Marshal back, she was awesome. And looked the part.
- 11/06/2010 12:45:48 PM
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Angelina is HOT, Cleopatra was NOT
- 16/06/2010 10:42:42 PM
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I'm having a hard time telling if you agree with me about Marshal or not... *NM*
- 16/06/2010 11:29:02 PM
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Wait...is the racist part the idiocy of trying to say Cleopatra was black or the "wog" calling part?
- 15/06/2010 01:38:42 AM
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it's not even a proper use of the term wog.
- 15/06/2010 10:16:25 AM
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No, actually it is.
- 15/06/2010 05:06:54 PM
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mk so, looking at that neither use is "wrong".
- 16/06/2010 08:53:05 AM
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Hence, your statement "it's not even a proper use of the term wog" is incorrect. *NM*
- 16/06/2010 01:34:45 PM
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And no one in the rest of the world cares about Australian slang. They're just weird down there. *NM*
- 16/06/2010 01:35:11 PM
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Wouldn't the closest modern ethnicity to the ancient egyptians be the Coptics? *NM*
- 16/06/2010 10:44:39 PM
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I wasn't calling anyone a wog, I was suggesting a likely parallel to the Ptolemies' attitude
- 17/06/2010 09:58:23 PM
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I completely agree that the "black Cleopatra" syndrome is born of insecurities.
- 18/06/2010 02:11:15 AM
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Yah...i don't see why people ever think Cleopatra should be black.
- 15/06/2010 10:18:12 AM
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