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mmm... everynametaken Send a noteboard - 16/05/2011 05:52:37 AM
I'm all for changing some things from the books so it translates to television, but what the FUCK is the point of making Renley and Loras gay?! That only complicates their story lines down the road.

What a stupid fucking decision. I mean it's not even that they're gay. That would have been fine if it was part of the original story. But it's not, and now I've lost a lot of faith in how well this show will go.

That said, I can eat my words when I'm wrong, and the Mountain looked just as imposing as I pictured him in the books.


As Tim said, they are gay in the books but it is a lot more subtle. I had read through the four books and never really caught it until someone on Wotmania said something about it. Then it was like the light bulb went on. Their closeness and Renly's never having consummated the marriage made a lot more sense in that vein. Although Loras in the TV series is what I pictured him looking like at all. I imagined a much more masculine guy and not so effeminate.
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Game of Thrones 1.05 everynametaken - 16/05/2011 05:08:32 AM 1632 Views
What the fuck. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2011 05:24:18 AM 1074 Views
Re: What the fuck. Timthetrolloc - 16/05/2011 05:41:03 AM 1168 Views
I guess I'm eating those words too. Haha I don't know how I missed it on my 3 rereads. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2011 05:50:04 AM 1121 Views
I know the feeling. lol... *NM* everynametaken - 16/05/2011 05:53:53 AM 389 Views
The most embarrassing part to miss is Renly's "Rainbow Guard". Legolas - 16/05/2011 10:28:21 PM 913 Views
I just read that part today. Darth_Katie - 17/05/2011 04:51:01 AM 836 Views
Haha, God! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2011 05:25:03 PM 859 Views
Margaery, and yes, she is. *NM* Legolas - 16/05/2011 10:25:47 PM 356 Views
mmm... everynametaken - 16/05/2011 05:52:37 AM 1026 Views
I completely agree. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2011 05:54:58 AM 992 Views
You aren't the first person I have had to break this news to. *NM* Beqi - 16/05/2011 06:21:45 PM 383 Views
Looking back on it I don't know how I didn't see it. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2011 07:44:05 PM 833 Views
Yeah that pissed me off big time, too ironclad - 16/05/2011 09:35:57 PM 940 Views
Definitely gay in the books scalius - 16/05/2011 10:06:19 PM 1053 Views
Re: Definitely gay in the books DrJacJacMcScrumptious - 17/05/2011 03:51:00 PM 959 Views
Alright, it's decided. But... ironclad - 17/05/2011 04:02:50 PM 840 Views
Thank you! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2011 05:17:15 PM 793 Views
Do the other sex scenes bother you too? Or just the gay ones? Beqi - 17/05/2011 10:36:05 PM 836 Views
They didn't before this episode ironclad - 18/05/2011 08:00:30 AM 872 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 DrJacJacMcScrumptious - 16/05/2011 12:19:18 PM 1171 Views
Ned survived the battle at the Tower of Joy Dark Knight - 16/05/2011 01:56:37 PM 914 Views
We don't know anything about ToJ DrJacJacMcScrumptious - 16/05/2011 03:39:37 PM 1043 Views
I think my favorite so far scalius - 16/05/2011 03:53:41 PM 1044 Views
Re: I think my favorite so far everynametaken - 17/05/2011 02:57:54 AM 900 Views
Awesome episode if I ignore the mess I mentioned above *future spoiler* ironclad - 16/05/2011 09:47:07 PM 927 Views
Re: Awesome episode if I ignore the mess I mentioned above *future spoiler* scalius - 16/05/2011 10:00:50 PM 838 Views
Re: Awesome episode if I ignore the mess I mentioned above *future spoiler* dacole - 16/05/2011 11:02:22 PM 917 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 dacole - 16/05/2011 11:06:47 PM 934 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 everynametaken - 17/05/2011 01:39:26 AM 871 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 scalius - 17/05/2011 07:39:34 PM 902 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 dacole - 17/05/2011 08:01:49 PM 816 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 scalius - 17/05/2011 07:43:24 PM 872 Views
Re: Game of Thrones 1.05 dacole - 17/05/2011 08:05:25 PM 831 Views
I think ... Nate - 17/05/2011 09:30:54 PM 827 Views
Yup scalius - 18/05/2011 06:09:08 PM 780 Views
Loras is not good looking enough MikeyMikeyMikey - 17/05/2011 05:01:46 PM 885 Views
Beauty is subjective, as Varys so rightly noted Dark Knight - 17/05/2011 05:09:31 PM 806 Views
I'm glad Darth_Katie - 17/05/2011 06:06:18 PM 852 Views
Re: I'm glad dacole - 17/05/2011 08:08:12 PM 955 Views
Umm...they didn't go back through the whole line... Kotagg - 17/05/2011 09:18:48 PM 869 Views
On that note Darth_Katie - 17/05/2011 10:16:34 PM 825 Views
Re: On that note scalius - 18/05/2011 06:16:17 PM 878 Views
I guess you do get to do whatever you want when you have huge ferocious beasts at your beck and call *NM* Darth_Katie - 18/05/2011 10:20:38 PM 372 Views
What he finds in the book, iirc... Legolas - 17/05/2011 11:28:26 PM 849 Views
It's the blood and violence that gets to me. Beqi - 17/05/2011 10:52:15 PM 835 Views
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