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What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM
I have seen it mentioned in a few places and by a few posters that Robert's death was no an accident. Is this true? Was Tywin involved? Or was the plan just to keep Robert drunk and see what bad happens?

Also, just wondering, does Joffery ever find out or realize that Jaime is his father, not Robert?


If I remember correctly the wine as poisened, with Lancel involved, though it only strongly hinted at in the books, and probalby never mentioned or confessed explicitly.

As for Joffery, Stannis will shout the truth from the rooftops in the second and third book, but as far as I can tell Joff simply believes is mummy on this who discards it as "treacherous lies".
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Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 846 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 787 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 397 Views
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No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 822 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 376 Views
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HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 788 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 832 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 799 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 792 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 811 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1060 Views
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You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 828 Views
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There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 983 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 931 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 836 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 771 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 793 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 875 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 721 Views
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The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 837 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 768 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 864 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 799 Views
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What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 771 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 802 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 757 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 403 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 785 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 935 Views
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