That was not the clincher though. What good he could do on the Wall is nothing next to a usurper
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/06/2011 08:47:06 PM
And since Joffrey blindsided even Cersei by torpedoing the Wall plan, it hardly seems fair to blame Ned for buying into it. I mean, look at the Wall storyline and tell me having Ned Stark there to lend a hand would not have been extremely useful.
Even if he could have foreseen all that was to come and did not simply regard the Watch as an honorable vocation with a noble task, his surrender was still dishonorable both personally and professionally. The former, because it would mean abandoning his wife and children (leaving them for a celibate vocation is no less an abandonment than leaving them for a bimbo), not to mention leaving them at the mercy of his enemies; and the latter, because he is allowing a usurper to remain on the throne and numerous high crimes and treasons to go unpunished. He is allowing his nation to be torn apart by civil war by adding legitimacy to one of the contenders, and slowing their downfall if not preventing it entirely. There is no excuse for what Ned did.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
interesting thread over on tv guide...cannoli will hate it.
- 13/06/2011 05:14:48 AM
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He was going to put aside his principles and say, 'I betrayed my country and my king and my people'.
- 13/06/2011 05:55:39 AM
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I am sorry but that is a bunch of BS
- 13/06/2011 12:01:18 PM
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*NM*
Even if I concede he was dead from the moment he was captured, that leaves HOW he died to determine.
- 13/06/2011 04:14:44 PM
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Ned is a northerner, and well aware of the good he could have done on the Wall.
- 13/06/2011 05:49:40 PM
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That was not the clincher though. What good he could do on the Wall is nothing next to a usurper
- 17/06/2011 08:47:06 PM
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Look up the concept of hostages sometime. Plus, Varys was playing Ned.
- 17/06/2011 09:15:02 PM
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So what should have Ned done, once he was in that cell? *NM*
- 18/06/2011 04:50:27 AM
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Stick to his guns and not agree to take the Black or recant his actions against Joffrey
- 04/07/2011 03:29:23 PM
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I'd pick family over honour.
- 13/06/2011 10:05:46 PM
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Cersie is the one who says "love is poison" in the second book to Sansa.
- 15/06/2011 06:54:21 PM
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And some day, when your kid needed people to trust you, you'd be screwed.
- 17/06/2011 09:37:25 PM
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