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All sensible points. nossy Send a noteboard - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I can see it kicking Casablanca's ass on quite a few points (cinematography, etc), but not on best picture.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1722 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 1101 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 1025 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 1108 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 1104 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 1014 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 977 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 865 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 1010 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1314 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 917 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 1024 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 1076 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 968 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 1102 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 518 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 1160 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 935 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 1108 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 1033 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 974 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1373 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 934 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 579 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 1005 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 592 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 1040 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 983 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 1008 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 1065 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 1131 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 1024 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 942 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 1074 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 1050 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 1122 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 938 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 961 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 949 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 1023 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 1082 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 954 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 860 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 467 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 895 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 1022 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 878 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 1048 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 859 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 977 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 852 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 1001 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 922 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 971 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 894 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 956 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 924 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 986 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 913 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 844 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 865 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 876 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 987 Views
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