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ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 Send a noteboard - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Thank you. You would think this would be blindingly obvious, but apparently it bears repeating. I can see a half-hearted case for TTT being as good as FotR on account of it being based on such a hard book to make a movie out of, but RotK was the weakest of the three by a mile.
Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I actually liked the endings better than much of the rest, and as I said still haven't seen Casablanca, but yes.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1752 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 1128 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 1052 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 1137 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 1124 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 1031 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 995 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 889 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 1040 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1335 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 943 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 1037 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 1100 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 991 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 1121 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 528 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 1183 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 956 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 1128 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 1056 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 996 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1394 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 954 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 586 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 1027 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 604 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 1065 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 1007 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 1034 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 1090 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 1160 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 1047 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 961 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 1097 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 1074 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 1146 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 962 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 986 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 971 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 1044 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 1102 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 978 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 882 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 480 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 918 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 1044 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 903 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 1074 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 883 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 995 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 877 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 1022 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 946 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 997 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 918 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 993 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 944 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 1003 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 937 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 859 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 882 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 915 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 1004 Views
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