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ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 Send a noteboard - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Thank you. You would think this would be blindingly obvious, but apparently it bears repeating. I can see a half-hearted case for TTT being as good as FotR on account of it being based on such a hard book to make a movie out of, but RotK was the weakest of the three by a mile.
Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I actually liked the endings better than much of the rest, and as I said still haven't seen Casablanca, but yes.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1895 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 1257 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 1193 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 1285 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 1272 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 1173 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 1117 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 1026 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 1179 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1490 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 1084 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 1174 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 1239 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 1118 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 1259 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 611 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 1332 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 1085 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 1278 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 1183 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 1130 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1541 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 1081 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 667 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 1161 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 684 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 1233 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 1140 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 1168 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 1239 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 1302 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 1186 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 1100 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 1231 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 1211 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 1309 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 1090 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 1134 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 1105 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 1171 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 1229 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 1120 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 1030 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 557 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 1047 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 1196 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 1025 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 1197 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 1017 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 1180 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 1014 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 1159 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 1072 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 1124 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 1043 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 1123 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 1078 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 1130 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 1068 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 997 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 1008 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 1049 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 1129 Views
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