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There actually was in Tolkein's mind, it is just contained in a different book. *NM* HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 02:37:13 PM
There was not an orc nemesis in the books. In the books this happened

1) They stumble onto the the goblins of the misty mountain by taking shelter in a cave. The cave had a false wall and the dwarves were ambushed.
2) The great goblin/goblin king is killed by Gandalf
3) During their escape bilbo falls and finds Gollum
4) They go down the misty mountains, are attacked by wargs, followed by them being attacked by the goblins. The dwarves are rescued by the eagles.
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Mirkwood, Laketown, and Smaug happen
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5) Due to the dwarves/Gandalf killing the goblin king and the prospect of riches. Bolg son and heir of Azog (the Orc who started the dwarf/orc wars a 150 years earlier), attacks the combined armies of dwarf, elf, and man. Once the eagles arrive this battle is known as the battle of the five armies.
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