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If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM
He just kind of exists to give some kind of recognizable face to the orcs, as opposed to "oh, here are some more monsters"

It doesn't really change the story, and it makes for a better movie.
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The Hobbit - Discussion thread and first thoughts ironclad - 13/12/2012 12:21:52 AM 2880 Views
As for the 3D... ironclad - 13/12/2012 04:18:43 PM 1629 Views
Please get everyone to stop watching movies in 3D in Europe. Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:40 AM 1540 Views
You overestimate my influence on the people of Europe ironclad - 17/12/2012 11:08:06 AM 1498 Views
Re: As for the 3D... moondog - 08/01/2013 09:25:43 PM 1607 Views
Re: As for the 3D... ironclad - 09/01/2013 09:13:27 AM 1524 Views
I wouldn't call it a rash - more like chafing. nossy - 14/12/2012 04:36:42 PM 1490 Views
Ouch - comparing it to Crystal Skull? *NM* Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:00 AM 729 Views
Well, the trolls were Moe, Larry and Curly, so... *NM* nossy - 15/12/2012 02:15:19 AM 728 Views
I liked it. There are some nitpicks, but overall it is enjoyable beetnemesis - 14/12/2012 04:50:28 PM 1420 Views
A bit too silly and special effects driven. TheCrownless - 14/12/2012 11:10:48 PM 1507 Views
Agreed. patternweaver - 23/12/2012 12:32:23 AM 1490 Views
I think two words have killed this movie for me: "orc nemesis" Tom - 15/12/2012 02:00:33 AM 1495 Views
To be fair, it's an orc nemesis from the books. Werthead - 15/12/2012 07:23:16 PM 1514 Views
Wait are we talking about Azog here? Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:08:11 AM 1508 Views
Looks like it. ironclad - 16/12/2012 12:19:19 PM 1395 Views
There was not an orc nemesis in the books Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:55:59 PM 1349 Views
There actually was in Tolkein's mind, it is just contained in a different book. *NM* HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:37:13 PM 689 Views
Actually, they might have already screwed up the Thrain thing. Cannoli - 19/12/2012 01:47:38 AM 1547 Views
I feel robed from my dreams. ferqwert - 21/12/2012 07:57:30 PM 1361 Views
If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM 1391 Views
Or it would if he weren't a useless whining moron, anyway. Legolas - 09/01/2013 05:33:16 PM 1408 Views
Should have been edited down to 2 hours snoopcester - 15/12/2012 11:05:29 AM 1416 Views
Commercial, forgettable but enjoyable Sports_Gambler - 15/12/2012 11:42:53 AM 1427 Views
It was fun, but it was also weird. Nate - 16/12/2012 08:50:54 AM 1381 Views
Better Nate than lever *NM* *NM* ferqwert - 23/12/2012 11:23:40 PM 682 Views
+1 - Saw it on opening night and loved it! Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2012 01:22:33 AM 1353 Views
I hated it, but I know I will be in the minority. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:45:26 PM 1435 Views
i mostly agree with you moondog - 08/01/2013 09:34:04 PM 1539 Views
I think any of those changes need to be viewed with the question, "Did it make a better movie?" beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:25:32 AM 1415 Views
Radagast? Bunny Sledge? Archrival Azog? The whole goblin cavern scene? It's a massacre alright. *NM* Bergioyn - 11/01/2013 03:07:55 PM 805 Views
I was dissapointed. Bergioyn - 29/12/2012 01:59:29 PM 1502 Views
I liked it. Avendesora - 30/12/2012 03:56:15 AM 1637 Views
In a word...meh. Tigr - 03/01/2013 09:13:33 PM 1347 Views
i actually liked the stone giant fight, that was part of the book which i appreciated in the film moondog - 08/01/2013 09:47:18 PM 1502 Views
Came across an excellent review with some interesting analysis Legolas - 27/01/2013 10:17:06 PM 1514 Views
It was pretty good. orius - 11/02/2013 06:57:52 AM 1488 Views
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