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I doubt it but it's not entirely implausible Isaac Send a noteboard - 11/06/2013 03:49:09 AM

View original post... is if they might change it so that Tywin is the one to off Joffrey, instead of the Tyrells. They haven't really been building up the notion of Joffrey being a threat to Margery. We know he would be, of course, yet the last we saw, she seemed to be doing a decent job of controlling him. But Tywin and Joffrey have been set at odds for a few episodes now, and we have Tywin saying that he'd do anything for the good of his family. Including, maybe, arranging the death of the member who he can see is going to get them destroyed in the future?

As you say, they've built up Olenna Redwyne as a major character so I doubt they'll want to take away her shining moment, plus I think they'll want to leave it as a mystery for a while, for the watcher-non-readers anyway. They might try to tease him, Varys, Baelish, and her as options, they may even leave it open to doubt if Tyrion did it. But I doubt they'll change it. Although I don't think it has ever been confirmed it was Olenna beyond a doubt and Baelish is obviously an unreliable narrator of events. So I won't be surprised if they hint at it as an possibility, and I wouldn't call it impossible by any means, but I don't think it is in the cards.


View original postThat might be a stretch, and there would need to be a reason for him to set Tyrion up to take the fall, but at this point I feel as though Tywin would have much greater motivation than the Tyrells. They built up the Queen of Thorns earlier, and I could have believed her doing it if Joffrey stepped out of line with Margery, but she's vanished lately in favor of the Tywin-Joffrey dynamic, so I have to wonder.

Well they've proven they're willing to make major changes, and it really doesn't make much difference who kills Joffrey, it is arguably Stannis and Melisandre who are responsible anyway, all that really matters is that he dies and Tyrion is accused of it. Hell Tyrion could actually be guilty of it and it wouldn't really matter. It can't be Cersei and she needs to believe it was Tyrion, it doesn't really matter after that.

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