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There is a special place in hell for women who don't support other women, you patriarchal dupe Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/06/2016 12:19:01 PM

This. THIS. They murdered their lord because he wouldn't get into a stupid war over a guy who VOLUNTEERED to take part in a battle to the death and lost, they murdered Marcella to piss of her mother, murdered her betrothed because he was in the way of them seizing power, and I seem to remember them burying some guy in the sand and using him for target practice at one point in the past too. I've been waiting for these pieces of human excrement to get theirs for ages, even resigned myself to the fact that I'd probably have to wait until next season, and now they're working with the protagonists?? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC-

Maybe Varys is just recruiting them to be expensive dragon feed.


Also, I've never been a fan of Daario, but even I was appalled at the way Dany treated him, especially coming on the heels of her forgiving Jorah Mormont.


They are strong powerful women, exercising agency! I suppose you wouldn't be happy unless they were all barefoot, pregnant & chained to a stove!


Because the show needs to get rid of any romantic loose ends.

i.e. the strings are showing. But a lot of the same critics wetting themselves with delight and praise for this show, get all sorts of huffy over what they claim are contrivances in other shows like The Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy.
Still, that "blowing up the sept" scene was really cool...

Even that was handled in a way that I think demonstrates how perverse are the values of the showrunners. It's cool when a powerful bad guy runs desperately to stop the the explosion. It's not cool to have a wounded man crawling desperately toward the fuse and falling just short of his attempt to snuff it out, unless he's supposed to be the hero. But the show has made it clear that it thinks the Sparrows and the whole religious group are evil fanatics, which makes me think they had the whole bit with Lancel's desperation as another bit of cheap sadistic gratification, like Tyrion taunting Theon last week. Rather than show their protagonists actually being better people, or being heroic, they're more into showing them exercising power and rubbing in the dirt the faces of those people who embody what the writers disapprove. Like religion or tradition or successful white men. George Martin might not have been any less liberal or PC than the showrunners, but he stuck to his characters' world view. For example, in an interview, he said one of his motivations in writing the series was in reaction to tropes like the princess running off with the stableboy. As he said "That never fucking happened." Now Martin might not be a marital elitist, he probably has no more real complaints about cross-class marriage than the average contemporary American, but he has his characters stick with THEIR social mores, THEIR customs and traditions and THEIR worldview, rather than imposing ours on a world where it doesn't make sense. Without Christianity and the Anglo-saxon political traditions, a LOT of our values are counter-indicated, and Martin seems to get that, and sticks to what characters in the setting he has created would or should think or believe. Dany never articulates and Christian principles or 18th century political philosophy in her opposition to slavery, she does it because she doesn't like it, and it goes against the customs she was taught.

The showrunners, on the other hand, seem to be using plotlines and characters as a medium for indulging in their own idealized outcomes and satisfying their personal tastes. So they taunt the devout religious penitent by a final tortuous exercise in impotence right before he is killed, and they punish all the characters who dared to acknowledge any legitimacy to religious authority or even feigned repentance for degenerate behavior.

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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There is a special place in hell for women who don't support other women, you patriarchal dupe - 28/06/2016 12:19:01 PM 560 Views
It's acceptable when they are annoying. - 28/06/2016 01:32:26 PM 599 Views
Re: It's acceptable when they are annoying. - 28/06/2016 04:31:04 PM 608 Views
Because books *NM* - 28/06/2016 09:33:44 AM 289 Views
Then how come the books don't do that? *NM* - 28/06/2016 12:19:35 PM 217 Views
That was my point. *NM* - 28/06/2016 01:20:07 PM 251 Views
Dude, this stuff happens over weeks in their internal chronology. *NM* - 28/06/2016 07:46:59 PM 344 Views
Here's some proof - 29/06/2016 01:15:23 AM 797 Views

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